Steve928 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Please keep an eye out for a stolen Bailey Approach Autograph 765 registration MX15 CSF. Not many distinguishing features, just a 4 bike carrier on the rear wall and a Gasit filler in the gas locker door. This was stolen whilst in the care of Bailey of Bristol - it had been returned to factory for work. Bailey's driver took it their upholstery supplier to collect new upholstery and left it outside with the keys in the ignition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimod Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 http://freemotorhominguk.boards.net/thread/3402/stolen-bailey-motorhome?page=1#scrollTo=43893 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Steve928 - 2017-01-27 6:05 PM keys in the ignition. Ouch. I think that means its not insured :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanS Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 If the MH was in the hands and care of the manufacturer at the time then their 'insurance' will cover the loss. I hope that Steve will get some good news soon as whether the vehicle has been found or what remedial action the manufacturer is taking - I wish him well. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 nimod - 2017-01-27 7:04 PM http://freemotorhominguk.boards.net/thread/3402/stolen-bailey-motorhome?page=1#scrollTo=43893 What news on the one your family had stolen Nimod? Has your mother made the list of stuff in it yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith T Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 John52 - 2017-01-29 9:17 AM Steve928 - 2017-01-27 6:05 PM keys in the ignition. Ouch. I think that means its not insured :-( I would have thought that Bailey are liable, one way or the other, as it was negligence on the part of their driver to leave it with the keys in! Whether their insurance would cover that I don't know but they clearly are liable in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerThat Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Very true! And it's THEIR insurance that needs to pay out, not yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimod Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Violet1956 - 2017-01-29 5:14 PM nimod - 2017-01-27 7:04 PM http://freemotorhominguk.boards.net/thread/3402/stolen-bailey-motorhome?page=1#scrollTo=43893 What news on the one your family had stolen Nimod? Has your mother made the list of stuff in it yet? not my family --- some one in the village that I talk to --- but still no news & no list yet poss to cutup about it yet will update if a list is posted --- it`s made me take steps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barcobird Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Steve928 - 2017-01-27 6:05 PM keys in the ignition. What a d...head. You spend a fortune on alarms etc and he leaves the keys in :$ Inside job (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 John52 - 2017-01-29 9:17 AM Steve928 - 2017-01-27 6:05 PM keys in the ignition. Ouch. I think that means its not insured :-( No.....it's OUCH a Baileys employee is either in for a heck of a roasting or dismissal!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 AlanS - 2017-01-29 5:11 PM If the MH was in the hands and care of the manufacturer at the time then their 'insurance' will cover the loss. I hope that Steve will get some good news soon as whether the vehicle has been found or what remedial action the manufacturer is taking - I wish him well. Alan I believe Steve’s posting about a stolen Bailey motorhome does not relate to his own vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Den Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 question that's being overlooked !!! Why was he using your Motorhomes to collect the upholstery. Were they being fitted or merely using your MH as a van!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Derek Uzzell - 2017-01-30 8:16 AM AlanS - 2017-01-29 5:11 PM If the MH was in the hands and care of the manufacturer at the time then their 'insurance' will cover the loss. I hope that Steve will get some good news soon as whether the vehicle has been found or what remedial action the manufacturer is taking - I wish him well. Alan I believe Steve’s posting about a stolen Bailey motorhome does not relate to his own vehicle. This is a plea from the MH owner... https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/club-together/discussions/welcome-hobby-talk/caravan-motorhome-chat/stolen-motorhome/ Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanS Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Derek Uzzell - 2017-01-30 8:16 AM AlanS - 2017-01-29 5:11 PM If the MH was in the hands and care of the manufacturer at the time then their 'insurance' will cover the loss. I hope that Steve will get some good news soon as whether the vehicle has been found or what remedial action the manufacturer is taking - I wish him well. Alan I believe Steve’s posting about a stolen Bailey motorhome does not relate to his own vehicle. Please Sir. Please Sir - I wasn't to know, don't hit me ! Anyway it doesn't hurt to bump this post. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Den - 2017-01-30 8:40 AM 1 question that's being overlooked !!! Why was he using your Motorhome to collect the upholstery. Were they being fitted or merely using your MH as a van!!! That's a good point which i imagine the owner has asked Baileys. Maybe Stuart can throw more light on it? Upholstery is sub-contracted out so if collecting the finished products......why hadn't a works van been used to collect it? Even the front seats would be removed if they were being upholstered as well.....there is no reason for a m/h to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Under 2 miles south of Bailey’s Bristol factory is the Caravan & Boat Seat Cover Centre (CBSCC) that specialises in upholstery for leisure-vehicles. http://www.cbscc.co.uk/ I’m not psychic, but it seems quite likely - perhaps even probable - that a motorhome taken to Bailey’s factory for under-warranty attention that (presumably) involved replacement of some of its upholstery would (assuming that CBSCC is Bailey’s upholstery supplier of course) normally be driven the short distance between Bailey’s factory and the CBSCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmold Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 From as far back as 2008 and as recently as 2016, I believe that Bailey's upholstery suppliers were Belfield in Ilkeston, a long long way from Bristol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve928 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Apologies if I gave the impression that this was my van. It belongs to a member of the Facebook Bailey owners group who had decided that due to the lack of help he was receiving from Bailey the time had come to publicise the theft more widely. Regarding the upholstery question, it has now been clarified that it was a collection from Bailey's own upholstery store rather than the supplier. It's not known whether this store is on the main production site, at the parts department on the other side of Bristol, or indeed elsewhere. If it were at the factory site then there are entry and exit barriers controlled by a security guard and I suppose that within this secure environment leaving keys in a vehicle may be less remarkable than it first seemed, although of course still unexcusable when the vehicle is someone else's property. Other than that there is sadly no progress to report either regarding locating the van or concerning any progress in getting recompense from Bailey, but I'll report back with any future news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will86 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Unfortunately a lot of the misdemeanours that occur in the Motorhome world and that are publicised on this forum relate to a third party and almost never from the actual victim. Which ... always leads to a suspect source from which its not easy to determine the facts. This is not to criticise this particular event but why do we not hear from the owner- victim. If the loss were mine I would be raising hell to all I could think of until every person in the land was aware of it. The more this situation goes on there are more puzzles occurring. All from different sources, which, suggests there may be errors mixed in with part truths. Will we ever know the facts? In my book a theft is a theft regardless of where, when and why. Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJB Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The owner has posted on a couple of more popular forums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve928 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Will86 - 2017-01-31 11:16 AM Unfortunately a lot of the misdemeanours that occur in the Motorhome world and that are publicised on this forum relate to a third party and almost never from the actual victim. Will I can understand that for anyone involved in a dispute with a manufacturer it's hard to judge when 'going public' is likely to be to your advantage. Initially you must feel that by keeping quiet and discussing the issue only with the manufacturer you might get a better end result, but the as fustration builds you begin to feel that publicity may help your cause, even if you're not quite ready to yourself start shouting. This was the situation that this owner was in and he asked others with forum accounts elsewhere to spread the word, although I now see that he's become frustrated enough to get on the web himself. I recall several disputes with manufacturers being chronicled on here and elsewhere where we were promised a full report on the eventual outcome but that report never materialised. I suspect that the final deal offered by the manufacturer often includes a gagging clause, hence so many of these dispute threads just peter out and we're none the wiser. I guess it's just important that the wronged party gets the best final deal and that we offer our help where requested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barcobird Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 EJB - 2017-01-31 11:26 AM The owner has posted on a couple of more popular forums! Is this not one of the more popular forums (?) *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 At this precise moment the Out&AboutLive forums apparently have 24064 registered users, a registered user being someone who can (in principle) log on to the forums and make postings. I’m not aware if it’s possible to tell how many unregistered ‘guests’ there might be who are viewing O&AL forum discussions but cannot actively participate in them, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen more than 50 registered users logged on at any one time. So, in terms of ‘popularity’ based on the number of active participants, these forums will be are fairly low in the pecking order - certainly a lot lower down than the MHFacts and MHFun forums, but probably higher up than the Practical Motorhome forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will86 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Its not a dispute Its THEFT ! Someone has dishonestly taken possession of another's property. Its a matter of LAW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve928 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Will86 - 2017-01-31 1:56 PM Its not a dispute Its THEFT ! Someone has dishonestly taken possession of another's property. Its a matter of LAW ! The taking of the motorhome is THEFT. The DISPUTE is about what further role Bailey should play in the matter. They are quite happy to restrict themselves to playing by the LAW and have provided the crime reference number and the contact telephone number of their insurer and bowed out (As have I now unless there is any further information to publish). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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