Husband and wife Paedos jailed

[Guest pelmetman]

Violet1956 - 2017-05-12 9:21 PM

 

Those are statistics on grooming Dave not on the sexual abuse of all kinds against children countrywide. I don't understand what you are trying to say. If it is that Muslim men are statistically more likley to sexually abuse children I am not persuaded that the statistics you provide show that. They may have a particular MO but are their sexual crimes against children so statistically relevant that we should believe that they as a group pose any more of a threat to our children than anyone else?

 

Veronica

 

Do you have the statistics to prove otherwise?......As it appears the UK prison population statistics folk don't state the ethnicity of sex offenders......cant imagine why :D ......

 

In 2014 our prison population of convicted sex offenders had increased to a all time high of 15% :-| ......

 

......and those statistics do not include the current crop of Asian sex offenders going through the courts, such as the 29 from Huddersfield.......

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Violet1956]

pelmetman - 2017-05-12 9:41 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-12 9:21 PM

 

Those are statistics on grooming Dave not on the sexual abuse of all kinds against children countrywide. I don't understand what you are trying to say. If it is that Muslim men are statistically more likley to sexually abuse children I am not persuaded that the statistics you provide show that. They may have a particular MO but are their sexual crimes against children so statistically relevant that we should believe that they as a group pose any more of a threat to our children than anyone else?

 

Veronica

 

Do you have the statistics to prove otherwise?......As it appears the UK prison population statistics folk don't state the ethnicity of sex offenders......cant imagine why :D ......

 

In 2014 our prison population of convicted sex offenders had increased to a all time high of 15% :-| ......

 

......and those statistics do not include the current crop of Asian sex offenders going through the courts, such as the 29 from Huddersfield.......

 

 

 

 

 

I am not trying to prove anything Dave but I suspect you are and you haven't thus far.

 

Veronica

[Guest pelmetman]

Violet1956 - 2017-05-12 10:26 PM

 

pelmetman - 2017-05-12 9:41 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-12 9:21 PM

 

Those are statistics on grooming Dave not on the sexual abuse of all kinds against children countrywide. I don't understand what you are trying to say. If it is that Muslim men are statistically more likley to sexually abuse children I am not persuaded that the statistics you provide show that. They may have a particular MO but are their sexual crimes against children so statistically relevant that we should believe that they as a group pose any more of a threat to our children than anyone else?

 

Veronica

 

Do you have the statistics to prove otherwise?......As it appears the UK prison population statistics folk don't state the ethnicity of sex offenders......cant imagine why :D ......

 

In 2014 our prison population of convicted sex offenders had increased to a all time high of 15% :-| ......

 

......and those statistics do not include the current crop of Asian sex offenders going through the courts, such as the 29 from Huddersfield.......

 

 

 

 

 

I am not trying to prove anything Dave but I suspect you are and you haven't thus far.

 

Veronica

 

Seeing as the last set of statistics from the authorities that show the ethnicity of sex offenders date from 2010 (before the grooming gang scandal), and show that 8% were Asian and 76% were white.....

 

I wonder what difference this lot have made?......and I wonder why the authorities are reluctant to update their statistics? :-| .......

 

2017-01-12 Colchester Mehdi Zare 32

2017-01-12 Colchester Mohammad Rostami 37

2016-12-21 Coventry Marcus Woolcock 22

2016-12-21 Coventry Waqaar Khan 24

2016-12-21 Coventry Keenan Kelly 18

2016-12-21 Coventry Zahid Chaudhary 20

2016-12-21 Coventry Kadeem Bourne 23

2016-11-03 Yeovil Ahmet Kurtyemez 29

2016-11-03 Yeovil Mehmet Citak 34

2016-11-01 Bristol Sakariya Sheikh 23

2016-11-01 Bristol Mohammed Dahir 24

2016-11-01 Bristol Abdirashid Abdulahi 23

2016-10-17 Rotherham Mohammed Whied 32

2016-10-17 Rotherham Naeem Rafiq 33

2016-10-17 Rotherham Masoued Malik 32

2016-10-17 Rotherham Ishtiaq Khaliq 33

2016-10-17 Rotherham Sageer Hussain 30

2016-10-17 Rotherham Asif Ali 30

2016-10-17 Rotherham Waleed Ali 34

2016-09-28 Dewsbury Ibrahim Kola 36

2016-09-28 Dewsbury Imran Haji 36

2016-09-28 Dewsbury Ismail Haji 39

2016-09-28 Dewsbury Mohammed Chothia 37

2016-09-20 Rochdale Gul Zaman 44

2016-09-20 Rochdale Irshad Wani 39

2016-09-20 Rochdale Shohaib Shabbir 29

2016-09-20 Rochdale Mohammed Ishaque 57

2016-09-19 Manchester Daniel Thomas 23

2016-09-19 Manchester Mohammed Mustafa 19

2016-09-19 Manchester Lukas Koky 23

2016-09-08 Bradford Ismail Ali 26

2016-09-08 Bradford Naheem Uddin 26

2016-07 Oxford Naim Khan 37

2016-07 Oxford Assad Hussain 35

2016-07 Oxford Akhtar Dogar 35

2016-07 Oxford Anjum Dogar 33

2016-07-08 Oxford Azad Miah 37

2016-07-08 Oxford Salik Miah 34

2016-06 Halifax Khalid Zaman 38

2016-06 Halifax Azeem Subhani 25

2016-06 Halifax Talib Saddiq 31

2016-06 Halifax Mohammed Ramzan 35

2016-06 Halifax Sikander Malik 31

2016-06 Halifax Fasil Mahmood 37

2016-06 Halifax Tahir Mahmood 43

2016-06 Halifax Sikander Ishaq 31

2016-06 Halifax Aftab Hussain 37

2016-06 Halifax Amaar Ditta 27

2016-06 Halifax Taukeer Butt 31

2016-06 Halifax Haider Ali 41

2016-06 Halifax Hedar Ali 36

2016-06 Halifax Mansoor Akhtar 25

2016-06 Halifax Mohammed Ahmed 43

2016-06 Halifax Haaris Ahmed 32

2016-05 Littlehampton Max N'Gasa 25

2016-05 Littlehampton Osmon Koroma 31

2016-02 Rotherham Karen MacGregor 58

2016-02 Rotherham Bannaras Hussain 36

2016-02 Rotherham Basharat Hussain 39

2016-02 Rotherham Arshid Hussain 40

2016-02 Rotherham Shelley Davies 40

2016-02 Rotherham Qurban Ali 53

2016-02 Rochdale Mohammed Zahid 45

2016-02 Rochdale Mahfuz Rahman 29

2016-02 Rochdale Kutab Miah 35

2016-02 Rochdale David Law 46

2016-02 Rochdale Abid Khan 39

2016-02 Rochdale Choudhry Hussain 38

2016-02 Rochdale Mohammed Dauood 38

2016-02 Rochdale Rehan Ali 27

2016-02 Rochdale Afraz Ahmed 33

2016-02 Manchester Mowled Yussuf 20

2016-02 Manchester Muhyadeen Osman 20

2016-02 Manchester Bilal Ahmed 20

2015-12 Keighley Bilal Ziarab 21

2015-12 Keighley Sufyan Ziarab 22

2015-12 Keighley Saqib Younis 29

2015-12 Keighley Hussain Sardar 19

2015-12 Keighley Nazir Khan 23

2015-12 Keighley Faisal Khan 27

2015-12 Keighley Yasser Kabir 25

2015-12 Keighley Tauqeer Hussain 23

2015-12 Keighley Zain Ali 20

2015-12 Keighley Israr Ali 19

2015-12 Keighley Mohammed Akram 63

2015-07 Aylesbury Vikram Singh 46

2015-07 Aylesbury Taimoor Khan 28

2015-07 Aylesbury Akbari Khan 36

2015-07 Aylesbury Arshad Jani 33

2015-07 Aylesbury Mohammed Imran 38

2015-07 Aylesbury Asif Hussain 33

2015-06 Oldham Dilon Rasul 23

2015-06 Oldham Hasan Ali 20

2015-06 Oldham Bilal Ahmed 27

2015-06 Leeds Amir Zaman 25

2015-06 Leeds Abid Younis 35

2015-06 Leeds Farahk Younis 24

2015-06 Leeds Arshid Younis 32

2015-06 Leeds Nasir Sultan 24

2015-06 Leeds Junaid Rashid 22

2015-06 Leeds Tariq Islam 31

2015-06 Leeds Zafar Iqbal 41

2015-06 Leeds Shazabe Hussain 20

2015-03 Banbury Zsolt Szalontai 18

2015-03 Banbury Said Saleh 20

2015-03 Banbury Mohammed Saleh 21

2015-03 Banbury Kagiso Manasae 26

2015-03 Banbury Takudzwa Hova 21

2015-03 Banbury Ahmed Hassan-Sule 21

2015-02 Slough Esmatullah Haidaree 46

2015-02 Slough Azim Ahmed 23

2014-11 Bristol Said Zakaria 22

2014-11 Bristol Sakariah Sheik 21

2014-11 Bristol Omar Jumale 20

2014-11 Bristol Mohamed Jumale 24

2014-11 Bristol Mohamed Dahir 22

2014-11 Bristol Abdirashid Abdulahi 21

2014-11 Bristol Jusuf Abdirizak 20

2014-10 Sheffield Mohammed Shapal 22

2014-10 Sheffield Shakeal Rehman 26

2014-10 Sheffield Bekir Rasheed 37

2014-10 Sheffield Yaseen Amini 37

2014-10 Sheffield Usman Ali 21

2014-10 Chesham Lee Wakelin 32

2014-10 Chesham Arslan Khan 21

2014-08 Newcastle Hafeez Cole Oye-Dada 44

2014-08 Newcastle Moses Ologbenla 31

2014-07 Bristol Idleh Osman 22

2014-07 Bristol Arafat Osman 20

2014-07 Bristol Mustapha Farah 21

2014-07 Bristol Mustafa Deria 22

2014-07 Bristol Abdulahi Aden 20

2014-07 Bristol Liban Abdi 22

2014-06 Burton Anees Hanif 19

2014-06 Burton Umber Farrouq 21

2014-06 Burton Junaid Ali 20

2014-06 Burton Matab Ali 21

2014-06 Burton Nasir Ahmed 41

2014-05 Peterborough Daaim Ashraf 19

2014-05 Peterborough Yasir Ali 28

2014-05 Blackburn Zhaid Mohmmed 44

2014-05 Blackburn Imran Khan 36

2014-04 Chesham Omar Sharif 25

2014-04 Chesham Haroon Rauf 30

2014-04 Chesham Ghulfaraz Nawaz 27

2014-04 Chesham Nazakat Mahmood 28

2014-01 Peterborough Zdeno Mirga 18

2014-01 Peterborough Jan Kandrac 17

2014-01 Peterborough Renato Balog 18

2014-01 Peterborough Hassan Abdulla 33

2014-01 Peterborough anon ? 14

2014-01 Leeds Harris Uddin 30

2014-01 Leeds Shah Miah 28

2014-01 Leeds Mohammed Hussain 28

2013-12 Middlesbrough Shakil Munir 32

2013-12 Middlesbrough Ateeq Latif 17

2013-12 Middlesbrough Sakib Ahmed 19

2013-11 Rochdale Roheez Khan 27

2013-11 Rochdale Freddie Kendakumana 27

2013-11 Rochdale Abdul Huk 37

2013-11 Rochdale Chola Chansa 33

2013-11 Rochdale Mohammed Abubaker 32

2013-10 London Muhammad Shabbir 25

2013-10 London Mohammad Shabbir 34

2013-08 Leicester Wajid Usman 21

2013-08 Leicester Bharat Modhwadia 25

2013-08 Leicester Chandresh Mistry 37

2013-08 Leicester Rakib Iacub 20

2013-08 Leicester Aabidali Ali 39

2013-08 Leicester Hamza Ali 28

2013-07 Manchester Shamin Uddin 26

2013-07 Manchester Giash Uddin 27

2013-07 Manchester Robert Jackson 23

2013-07 Barking Hassan Raza 24

2013-07 Barking Nabeel Ahmed 24

2013-07 Barking Naeem Ahmed 25

2013-05 Oxford Bassam Karrar 34

2013-05 Oxford Mohammed Karrar 38

2013-05 Oxford Kamar Jamil 27

2013-05 Oxford Assad Hussain 32

2013-05 Oxford Anjum Dogar 31

2013-05 Oxford Akhtar Dogar 32

2013-05 Oxford Zeeshan Ahmed 28

2013-03 Keighley Shazad Rehman 30

2013-03 Keighley Bilal Hussain 23

2013-03 Birmingham Adeeb Sultan 27

2013-03 Birmingham Raja Khan 23

2013-02 Ipswich Surin Uddin 31

2013-02 Ipswich Mohammed Sheikh 31

2013-02 Ipswich Hamza Ali 38

2012-05 Rochdale Mohammed Sajid 35

2012-05 Rochdale Hamid Safi 22

2012-05 Rochdale Abdul Rauf 43

2012-05 Rochdale Abdul Qayyum 43

2012-05 Rochdale Adil Khan 42

2012-05 Rochdale Kabeer Hassan 25

2012-05 Rochdale Abdul Aziz 41

2012-05 Rochdale Mohammed Amin 45

2012-05 Rochdale Shabir Ahmed 59

2012-05 Bradford Munwar Khan 42

2012-05 Bradford Shabir Ahmed 39

2012-03 Telford Adil Saleem 20

2012-03 Telford Shamrez Rashid 20

2012-03 Telford Jahbar Rafiq 28

2012-03 Telford Amar Hussain 21

2012-03 Telford Amer Choudhrey 20

2011-08 Accrington Amjad Hussain 38

2011-08 Accrington Shahid Hussain 34

2011-08 Accrington Tanveer Butt 39

 

I have randomly verified some of them by googling the individuals.......I couldn't be bothered with all 209 *-) ...........

If as Bullet likes to point out that a certain 5% of our population are no more likely to commit these crimes than us white Brits then he should be able to provide a similar list of white British....... and will be able to find another 3342 to add to the two he started this thread with? :-| .......

 

 

 

 

[Violet1956]

pelmetman - 2017-05-13 8:46 AM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-12 10:26 PM

 

pelmetman - 2017-05-12 9:41 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-12 9:21 PM

 

Those are statistics on grooming Dave not on the sexual abuse of all kinds against children countrywide. I don't understand what you are trying to say. If it is that Muslim men are statistically more likley to sexually abuse children I am not persuaded that the statistics you provide show that. They may have a particular MO but are their sexual crimes against children so statistically relevant that we should believe that they as a group pose any more of a threat to our children than anyone else?

 

Veronica

 

Do you have the statistics to prove otherwise?......As it appears the UK prison population statistics folk don't state the ethnicity of sex offenders......cant imagine why :D ......

 

In 2014 our prison population of convicted sex offenders had increased to a all time high of 15% :-| ......

 

......and those statistics do not include the current crop of Asian sex offenders going through the courts, such as the 29 from Huddersfield.......

 

 

 

 

 

I am not trying to prove anything Dave but I suspect you are and you haven't thus far.

 

Veronica

 

Seeing as the last set of statistics from the authorities that show the ethnicity of sex offenders date from 2010 (before the grooming gang scandal), and show that 8% were Asian and 76% were white.....

 

I wonder what difference this lot have made?......and I wonder why the authorities are reluctant to update their statistics? :-| .......

 

2017-01-12 Colchester Mehdi Zare 32

2017-01-12 Colchester Mohammad Rostami 37

2016-12-21 Coventry Marcus Woolcock 22

2016-12-21 Coventry Waqaar Khan 24

2016-12-21 Coventry Keenan Kelly 18

2016-12-21 Coventry Zahid Chaudhary 20

2016-12-21 Coventry Kadeem Bourne 23

2016-11-03 Yeovil Ahmet Kurtyemez 29

2016-11-03 Yeovil Mehmet Citak 34

2016-11-01 Bristol Sakariya Sheikh 23

2016-11-01 Bristol Mohammed Dahir 24

2016-11-01 Bristol Abdirashid Abdulahi 23

2016-10-17 Rotherham Mohammed Whied 32

2016-10-17 Rotherham Naeem Rafiq 33

2016-10-17 Rotherham Masoued Malik 32

2016-10-17 Rotherham Ishtiaq Khaliq 33

2016-10-17 Rotherham Sageer Hussain 30

2016-10-17 Rotherham Asif Ali 30

2016-10-17 Rotherham Waleed Ali 34

2016-09-28 Dewsbury Ibrahim Kola 36

2016-09-28 Dewsbury Imran Haji 36

2016-09-28 Dewsbury Ismail Haji 39

2016-09-28 Dewsbury Mohammed Chothia 37

2016-09-20 Rochdale Gul Zaman 44

2016-09-20 Rochdale Irshad Wani 39

2016-09-20 Rochdale Shohaib Shabbir 29

2016-09-20 Rochdale Mohammed Ishaque 57

2016-09-19 Manchester Daniel Thomas 23

2016-09-19 Manchester Mohammed Mustafa 19

2016-09-19 Manchester Lukas Koky 23

2016-09-08 Bradford Ismail Ali 26

2016-09-08 Bradford Naheem Uddin 26

2016-07 Oxford Naim Khan 37

2016-07 Oxford Assad Hussain 35

2016-07 Oxford Akhtar Dogar 35

2016-07 Oxford Anjum Dogar 33

2016-07-08 Oxford Azad Miah 37

2016-07-08 Oxford Salik Miah 34

2016-06 Halifax Khalid Zaman 38

2016-06 Halifax Azeem Subhani 25

2016-06 Halifax Talib Saddiq 31

2016-06 Halifax Mohammed Ramzan 35

2016-06 Halifax Sikander Malik 31

2016-06 Halifax Fasil Mahmood 37

2016-06 Halifax Tahir Mahmood 43

2016-06 Halifax Sikander Ishaq 31

2016-06 Halifax Aftab Hussain 37

2016-06 Halifax Amaar Ditta 27

2016-06 Halifax Taukeer Butt 31

2016-06 Halifax Haider Ali 41

2016-06 Halifax Hedar Ali 36

2016-06 Halifax Mansoor Akhtar 25

2016-06 Halifax Mohammed Ahmed 43

2016-06 Halifax Haaris Ahmed 32

2016-05 Littlehampton Max N'Gasa 25

2016-05 Littlehampton Osmon Koroma 31

2016-02 Rotherham Karen MacGregor 58

2016-02 Rotherham Bannaras Hussain 36

2016-02 Rotherham Basharat Hussain 39

2016-02 Rotherham Arshid Hussain 40

2016-02 Rotherham Shelley Davies 40

2016-02 Rotherham Qurban Ali 53

2016-02 Rochdale Mohammed Zahid 45

2016-02 Rochdale Mahfuz Rahman 29

2016-02 Rochdale Kutab Miah 35

2016-02 Rochdale David Law 46

2016-02 Rochdale Abid Khan 39

2016-02 Rochdale Choudhry Hussain 38

2016-02 Rochdale Mohammed Dauood 38

2016-02 Rochdale Rehan Ali 27

2016-02 Rochdale Afraz Ahmed 33

2016-02 Manchester Mowled Yussuf 20

2016-02 Manchester Muhyadeen Osman 20

2016-02 Manchester Bilal Ahmed 20

2015-12 Keighley Bilal Ziarab 21

2015-12 Keighley Sufyan Ziarab 22

2015-12 Keighley Saqib Younis 29

2015-12 Keighley Hussain Sardar 19

2015-12 Keighley Nazir Khan 23

2015-12 Keighley Faisal Khan 27

2015-12 Keighley Yasser Kabir 25

2015-12 Keighley Tauqeer Hussain 23

2015-12 Keighley Zain Ali 20

2015-12 Keighley Israr Ali 19

2015-12 Keighley Mohammed Akram 63

2015-07 Aylesbury Vikram Singh 46

2015-07 Aylesbury Taimoor Khan 28

2015-07 Aylesbury Akbari Khan 36

2015-07 Aylesbury Arshad Jani 33

2015-07 Aylesbury Mohammed Imran 38

2015-07 Aylesbury Asif Hussain 33

2015-06 Oldham Dilon Rasul 23

2015-06 Oldham Hasan Ali 20

2015-06 Oldham Bilal Ahmed 27

2015-06 Leeds Amir Zaman 25

2015-06 Leeds Abid Younis 35

2015-06 Leeds Farahk Younis 24

2015-06 Leeds Arshid Younis 32

2015-06 Leeds Nasir Sultan 24

2015-06 Leeds Junaid Rashid 22

2015-06 Leeds Tariq Islam 31

2015-06 Leeds Zafar Iqbal 41

2015-06 Leeds Shazabe Hussain 20

2015-03 Banbury Zsolt Szalontai 18

2015-03 Banbury Said Saleh 20

2015-03 Banbury Mohammed Saleh 21

2015-03 Banbury Kagiso Manasae 26

2015-03 Banbury Takudzwa Hova 21

2015-03 Banbury Ahmed Hassan-Sule 21

2015-02 Slough Esmatullah Haidaree 46

2015-02 Slough Azim Ahmed 23

2014-11 Bristol Said Zakaria 22

2014-11 Bristol Sakariah Sheik 21

2014-11 Bristol Omar Jumale 20

2014-11 Bristol Mohamed Jumale 24

2014-11 Bristol Mohamed Dahir 22

2014-11 Bristol Abdirashid Abdulahi 21

2014-11 Bristol Jusuf Abdirizak 20

2014-10 Sheffield Mohammed Shapal 22

2014-10 Sheffield Shakeal Rehman 26

2014-10 Sheffield Bekir Rasheed 37

2014-10 Sheffield Yaseen Amini 37

2014-10 Sheffield Usman Ali 21

2014-10 Chesham Lee Wakelin 32

2014-10 Chesham Arslan Khan 21

2014-08 Newcastle Hafeez Cole Oye-Dada 44

2014-08 Newcastle Moses Ologbenla 31

2014-07 Bristol Idleh Osman 22

2014-07 Bristol Arafat Osman 20

2014-07 Bristol Mustapha Farah 21

2014-07 Bristol Mustafa Deria 22

2014-07 Bristol Abdulahi Aden 20

2014-07 Bristol Liban Abdi 22

2014-06 Burton Anees Hanif 19

2014-06 Burton Umber Farrouq 21

2014-06 Burton Junaid Ali 20

2014-06 Burton Matab Ali 21

2014-06 Burton Nasir Ahmed 41

2014-05 Peterborough Daaim Ashraf 19

2014-05 Peterborough Yasir Ali 28

2014-05 Blackburn Zhaid Mohmmed 44

2014-05 Blackburn Imran Khan 36

2014-04 Chesham Omar Sharif 25

2014-04 Chesham Haroon Rauf 30

2014-04 Chesham Ghulfaraz Nawaz 27

2014-04 Chesham Nazakat Mahmood 28

2014-01 Peterborough Zdeno Mirga 18

2014-01 Peterborough Jan Kandrac 17

2014-01 Peterborough Renato Balog 18

2014-01 Peterborough Hassan Abdulla 33

2014-01 Peterborough anon ? 14

2014-01 Leeds Harris Uddin 30

2014-01 Leeds Shah Miah 28

2014-01 Leeds Mohammed Hussain 28

2013-12 Middlesbrough Shakil Munir 32

2013-12 Middlesbrough Ateeq Latif 17

2013-12 Middlesbrough Sakib Ahmed 19

2013-11 Rochdale Roheez Khan 27

2013-11 Rochdale Freddie Kendakumana 27

2013-11 Rochdale Abdul Huk 37

2013-11 Rochdale Chola Chansa 33

2013-11 Rochdale Mohammed Abubaker 32

2013-10 London Muhammad Shabbir 25

2013-10 London Mohammad Shabbir 34

2013-08 Leicester Wajid Usman 21

2013-08 Leicester Bharat Modhwadia 25

2013-08 Leicester Chandresh Mistry 37

2013-08 Leicester Rakib Iacub 20

2013-08 Leicester Aabidali Ali 39

2013-08 Leicester Hamza Ali 28

2013-07 Manchester Shamin Uddin 26

2013-07 Manchester Giash Uddin 27

2013-07 Manchester Robert Jackson 23

2013-07 Barking Hassan Raza 24

2013-07 Barking Nabeel Ahmed 24

2013-07 Barking Naeem Ahmed 25

2013-05 Oxford Bassam Karrar 34

2013-05 Oxford Mohammed Karrar 38

2013-05 Oxford Kamar Jamil 27

2013-05 Oxford Assad Hussain 32

2013-05 Oxford Anjum Dogar 31

2013-05 Oxford Akhtar Dogar 32

2013-05 Oxford Zeeshan Ahmed 28

2013-03 Keighley Shazad Rehman 30

2013-03 Keighley Bilal Hussain 23

2013-03 Birmingham Adeeb Sultan 27

2013-03 Birmingham Raja Khan 23

2013-02 Ipswich Surin Uddin 31

2013-02 Ipswich Mohammed Sheikh 31

2013-02 Ipswich Hamza Ali 38

2012-05 Rochdale Mohammed Sajid 35

2012-05 Rochdale Hamid Safi 22

2012-05 Rochdale Abdul Rauf 43

2012-05 Rochdale Abdul Qayyum 43

2012-05 Rochdale Adil Khan 42

2012-05 Rochdale Kabeer Hassan 25

2012-05 Rochdale Abdul Aziz 41

2012-05 Rochdale Mohammed Amin 45

2012-05 Rochdale Shabir Ahmed 59

2012-05 Bradford Munwar Khan 42

2012-05 Bradford Shabir Ahmed 39

2012-03 Telford Adil Saleem 20

2012-03 Telford Shamrez Rashid 20

2012-03 Telford Jahbar Rafiq 28

2012-03 Telford Amar Hussain 21

2012-03 Telford Amer Choudhrey 20

2011-08 Accrington Amjad Hussain 38

2011-08 Accrington Shahid Hussain 34

2011-08 Accrington Tanveer Butt 39

 

I have randomly verified some of them by googling the individuals.......I couldn't be bothered with all 209 *-) ...........

If as Bullet likes to point out that a certain 5% of our population are no more likely to commit these crimes than us white Brits then he should be able to provide a similar list of white British....... and will be able to find another 3342 to add to the two he started this thread with? :-| .......

 

 

 

The thread was about sex offences against children not sex offences in general. You are still indulging in speculation Dave. This is what Alexis Jay had to say in the 2014 report on the Rotherham Scandal.

 

"As has been stated many times before, there is no simple link between race and child sexual exploitation, and across the UK the greatest numbers of perpetrators of CSE ( child sexual exploitation) are white men. The second largest category, according to the Children's Commissioner's report, are those from a minority ethnic background, particularly those recorded as 'Asian'."

 

And as I am sure you know already "Asian" does not equate with "Muslim". It seems from all of your posts on this thread you are expressing the view that as many perpetrators describe themselves as Muslims it is holding that faith that is of itself the (or a most) significant factor in determining whether someone will get involved in child sexual exploitation. There is no evidence to back that up.

 

Veronica

[antony1969]

The Chatterbox bible of many on here telling it how it is ... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty ... Far from defending Muslim peadophiles in a Muslim peadophile apologist kind of way The Guardian are stating the bleeding obvious for once and telling it like it is ... Wether its Iraq , Afghanistan , Bradford , Oxford or a Calais refugee camp peadophilia runs deep in the Muslim world ... They have more terrorists in the Muslim world , they have more deformed children due to inbreeding in the Muslim world why is it they wouldn't have more Muslim pedaophiles who in this country just happen to choose white underage girls 99% of the time ... Muslim peadophile apologists have kept the issue quiet for way too long and caused more unnecessary suffering for innocent white girls ... If not as bad as the Muslim peadophiles they are a disgrace for denying the problem , make me wanna puke

[Violet1956]

antony1969 - 2017-05-13 4:06 PM

 

The Chatterbox bible of many on here telling it how it is ... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty ... Far from defending Muslim peadophiles in a Muslim peadophile apologist kind of way The Guardian are stating the bleeding obvious for once and telling it like it is ... Wether its Iraq , Afghanistan , Bradford , Oxford or a Calais refugee camp peadophilia runs deep in the Muslim world ... They have more terrorists in the Muslim world , they have more deformed children due to inbreeding in the Muslim world why is it they wouldn't have more Muslim pedaophiles who in this country just happen to choose white underage girls 99% of the time ... Muslim peadophile apologists have kept the issue quiet for way too long and caused more unnecessary suffering for innocent white girls ... If not as bad as the Muslim peadophiles they are a disgrace for denying the problem , make me wanna puke

 

No one is defending paedophilia Antony. You don't seem to understand the term "apologist" either.

 

Veronica

[antony1969]

Violet1956 - 2017-05-13 4:53 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-05-13 4:06 PM

 

The Chatterbox bible of many on here telling it how it is ... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty ... Far from defending Muslim peadophiles in a Muslim peadophile apologist kind of way The Guardian are stating the bleeding obvious for once and telling it like it is ... Wether its Iraq , Afghanistan , Bradford , Oxford or a Calais refugee camp peadophilia runs deep in the Muslim world ... They have more terrorists in the Muslim world , they have more deformed children due to inbreeding in the Muslim world why is it they wouldn't have more Muslim pedaophiles who in this country just happen to choose white underage girls 99% of the time ... Muslim peadophile apologists have kept the issue quiet for way too long and caused more unnecessary suffering for innocent white girls ... If not as bad as the Muslim peadophiles they are a disgrace for denying the problem , make me wanna puke

 

No one is defending paedophilia Antony. You don't seem to understand the term "apologist" either.

 

Veronica

 

My understanding of the word "apologist" sits well in my world in describing those that deny Muslim pedophilia is a very real problem ... I don't see you condemning the piece in your Bible either

[Guest pelmetman]

Violet1956 - 2017-05-13 10:27 AM

The thread was about sex offences against children not sex offences in general.

 

They have all been convicted of grooming children :-| .......

 

"Grooming Gang Statistics

Table showing details of those jailed as members of gangs who targeted white schoolgirls for rape."

 

http://pmclauth.com/sentenced/Grooming-Gang-Statistics/Gangs-Jailed/

 

 

[Guest pelmetman]

If you don't believe the list is true.....just copy a name and google it >:-( .......

 

 

 

 

[Guest pelmetman]

This threads gone quiet?.......I wonder why *-) ......

 

[Violet1956]

pelmetman - 2017-05-13 6:37 PM

 

If you don't believe the list is true.....just copy a name and google it >:-( .......

 

 

 

 

You added the list of convicted child groomers to a general statistics on sex offenders from 2010 Dave.

 

I’m not denying that there was/is a problem with men of Pakistani origin involved in sex grooming gangs there clearly was/is. It is the manner in which you interpret that to mean that it is because of they are Muslim that they do this that I take issue with. It’s like saying because the Christian Brothers abused children we’ve got “a problem” with Catholics. I do wish you had read the Jay report which exposes all of the issues which led to the abuse of those girls and the factors which led to the problem being ignored for years. Interestingly the woman who tried to help and expose the problem does not say that it was ignored because of “cultural sensitivities” she says it was the disrespect harboured by those who had a duty to protect them because of their “lifestyle”.

 

If you can't find the time to read the Jay report which is easily accessible online perhaps you will find the time to watch the docudrama "Three Girls" I mentioned which is going to be aired from tomorrow night.

 

Veronica

 

 

[Guest pelmetman]

Violet1956 - 2017-05-15 9:15 AM

 

pelmetman - 2017-05-13 6:37 PM

 

If you don't believe the list is true.....just copy a name and google it >:-( .......

 

 

 

 

You added the list of convicted child groomers to a general statistics on sex offenders from 2010 Dave.

 

 

Eh? :-S ...........you said previously "The thread was about sex offences against children not sex offences in general." *-) .......

 

I haven't added anything.....everyone of the perverts listed that I've checked so far were involved in the rape of schoolgirls! :-| ........

 

As for not tarring Islam, what culture do you think they were brought up in?........do you think they were not aware what their head honcho got up to? *-) .........

 

Cant say I'm surprised that Baroness Jay would try to spread the blame on to the gate keepers rather than the perverts either *-) .........

 

So what happens when they make up 10% of our population, and fill 30% of our prisons and we have a 100,000 more child rape victims? (?) ........

 

 

 

 

[Violet1956]

pelmetman - 2017-05-15 6:56 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-15 9:15 AM

 

pelmetman - 2017-05-13 6:37 PM

 

If you don't believe the list is true.....just copy a name and google it >:-( .......

 

 

 

 

You added the list of convicted child groomers to a general statistics on sex offenders from 2010 Dave.

 

 

Eh? :-S ...........you said previously "The thread was about sex offences against children not sex offences in general." *-) .......

 

I haven't added anything.....everyone of the perverts listed that I've checked so far were involved in the rape of schoolgirls! :-| ........

 

As for not tarring Islam, what culture do you think they were brought up in?........do you think they were not aware what their head honcho got up to? *-) .........

 

Cant say I'm surprised that Baroness Jay would try to spread the blame on to the gate keepers rather than the perverts either *-) .........

 

So what happens when they make up 10% of our population, and fill 30% of our prisons and we have a 100,000 more child rape victims? (?) ........

 

 

 

Whoa!! that's a lot to take in Dave but I will try to explain my gut response. Baroness Jay's report mentioned a whole lot of factors that saw these girls unprotected and vulnerable to abuse. Of course the perpetrators of this disgusting abuse are to blame for it but the extent to which it went unchecked is worthy of some analysis. You are right that the attitudes displayed toward women and girls in cultures that are predominantly Muslim in origin needs to be addressed. Those in the West who do not share that culture are not without sin on that front but they are much further on in terms of addressing it. So yes you are right to raise the issue but I question what you may believe are the best methods of tackling it. To attack the majority of law abiding Muslims in the UK would not be my choice. I would seek to encourage them to root out those who do not subscribe to the principles that hold men and women, boys and girls as equals. I don't believe that labelling all Muslims as potential child sex abusers will secure that.

 

Veronica

[Guest pelmetman]

Violet1956 - 2017-05-15 7:27 PM

 

To attack the majority of law abiding Muslims in the UK would not be my choice. I would seek to encourage them to root out those who do not subscribe to the principles that hold men and women, boys and girls as equals. .

 

Veronica

 

Good luck with that >:-) ........

 

There's a first time for everything......maybe they will leave the stone age behind and integrate with us Kafirs (lol) (lol) (lol) ......

 

Must get me some of those rose tinted spec's B-) ........

 

 

[RogerC]

I have neither the time or inclination to read word for word but it is clear some either can not or will not see that we (UK and Europe) have relatively recently undergone (and are still undergoing) a massive influx of people from many from parts of the world where sexual activity with those we consider to be children is normal.

The following is an extract from "age of consent.net":

".........This has raised concerns by many international organizations, especially in some countries where girls are married at as young as 9 or 10 years old. Countries with marriage-based ages of consent include Afghanistan, Iran, Kuwait, Libya, Maldives, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and the UAE".

In Afghanistan and other tribal/border regions there is a saying:

'Boys are for pleasure, girls/women are for babies'!!!

Now given the cultural differences and rapid influx of ever greater numbers from those and other regions 'we' would consider condone paedophilia (as set by our standards) is it any wonder crime such as this is on the increase???

IMO to deny it is to bury ones head in the sand............it is an ingrained element of culture in those regions and anyone who feels that it can be changed to meet 'our' legal standards regarding sexual activity....and treatment of children/women quite frankly has no concept of the depth of the issue.

PS....Try a Google search for 'sexual assaults Germany' or any other similar combination of search terms and it is clear to see that this (sexual assaults/paedophile activity/grooming etc) has reached epidemic proportions.  Germany has pointedly issued instructions 'not' to comment on the ethnicity of any sexually motivated case unless specifically asked in order to attempt to conceal the massive increase in such assaults by immigrants from the Middle East and some African countries..............not that is a sad indictment of government getting it 'really wrong'.

[Guest pelmetman]

Violet1956 - 2017-05-15 9:15 AM

 

perhaps you will find the time to watch the docudrama "Three Girls" I mentioned which is going to be aired from tomorrow night.

 

Veronica

 

 

I'm not watching it as I have to watch my blood pressure ;-) .......

 

Some folk maybe getting a wake up call at last >:-) ........

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/three-girls-episode-two-review-rochdales-damning-tale-sex-abuse/

 

Although I suspect its mainly an indictment of our incompetent authorities, than a condemnation of the culture that produces these perverts *-) .......

 

So I very much doubt if lessons will be learn't :-| ......

 

 

[Violet1956]

pelmetman - 2017-05-18 8:21 AM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-15 9:15 AM

 

perhaps you will find the time to watch the docudrama "Three Girls" I mentioned which is going to be aired from tomorrow night.

 

Veronica

 

 

I'm not watching it as I have to watch my blood pressure ;-) .......

 

Some folk maybe getting a wake up call at last >:-) ........

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/three-girls-episode-two-review-rochdales-damning-tale-sex-abuse/

 

Although I suspect its mainly an indictment of our incompetent authorities, than a condemnation of the culture that produces these perverts *-) .......

 

So I very much doubt if lessons will be learn't :-| ......

 

I think you're wise not to watch it Dave as I understand how outraged you are about what happened. The first two episodes have been harrowing. I would not lay the ultimate blame on the incompetence of the agencies who were responsible for the protection of children who were abused. The perpetrators remain ultimately responsible and I don't think we should lose sight of that.

 

Veronica

[antony1969]

Violet1956 - 2017-05-18 6:59 PM

 

pelmetman - 2017-05-18 8:21 AM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-15 9:15 AM

 

perhaps you will find the time to watch the docudrama "Three Girls" I mentioned which is going to be aired from tomorrow night.

 

Veronica

 

 

I'm not watching it as I have to watch my blood pressure ;-) .......

 

Some folk maybe getting a wake up call at last >:-) ........

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/three-girls-episode-two-review-rochdales-damning-tale-sex-abuse/

 

Although I suspect its mainly an indictment of our incompetent authorities, than a condemnation of the culture that produces these perverts *-) .......

 

So I very much doubt if lessons will be learn't :-| ......

 

I think you're wise not to watch it Dave as I understand how outraged you are about what happened. The first two episodes have been harrowing. I would not lay the ultimate blame on the incompetence of the agencies who were responsible for the protection of children who were abused. The perpetrators remain ultimately responsible and I don't think we should lose sight of that.

 

Veronica

 

Ive not seen it Veronica but I'm led to believe in a BBC type way the word Muslim has not graced the airwaves yet ??? ... Given that as we know they were Muslim sick peado gangs it sounds like a total work of fiction

[Violet1956]

antony1969 - 2017-05-18 7:15 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-18 6:59 PM

 

pelmetman - 2017-05-18 8:21 AM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-15 9:15 AM

 

perhaps you will find the time to watch the docudrama "Three Girls" I mentioned which is going to be aired from tomorrow night.

 

Veronica

 

 

I'm not watching it as I have to watch my blood pressure ;-) .......

 

Some folk maybe getting a wake up call at last >:-) ........

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/three-girls-episode-two-review-rochdales-damning-tale-sex-abuse/

 

Although I suspect its mainly an indictment of our incompetent authorities, than a condemnation of the culture that produces these perverts *-) .......

 

So I very much doubt if lessons will be learn't :-| ......

 

I think you're wise not to watch it Dave as I understand how outraged you are about what happened. The first two episodes have been harrowing. I would not lay the ultimate blame on the incompetence of the agencies who were responsible for the protection of children who were abused. The perpetrators remain ultimately responsible and I don't think we should lose sight of that.

 

Veronica

 

Ive not seen it Veronica but I'm led to believe in a BBC type way the word Muslim has not graced the airwaves yet ??? ... Given that as we know they were Muslim sick peado gangs it sounds like a total work of fiction

 

You are right Antony - the word Muslim hasn't been mentioned but the religious and cultural origins of the perpetrators are obvious by their names. I am going to watch the final episode tonight. I quite understand why you haven't got the stomach for it. So far it doesn't seem like a complete work of fiction to me. One thing for certain is that it has brought to our screens one of the biggest and most distressing scandals of our time.

 

Veronica

 

[antony1969]

Violet1956 - 2017-05-18 7:37 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-05-18 7:15 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-18 6:59 PM

 

pelmetman - 2017-05-18 8:21 AM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-15 9:15 AM

 

perhaps you will find the time to watch the docudrama "Three Girls" I mentioned which is going to be aired from tomorrow night.

 

Veronica

 

 

I'm not watching it as I have to watch my blood pressure ;-) .......

 

Some folk maybe getting a wake up call at last >:-) ........

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/three-girls-episode-two-review-rochdales-damning-tale-sex-abuse/

 

Although I suspect its mainly an indictment of our incompetent authorities, than a condemnation of the culture that produces these perverts *-) .......

 

So I very much doubt if lessons will be learn't :-| ......

 

I think you're wise not to watch it Dave as I understand how outraged you are about what happened. The first two episodes have been harrowing. I would not lay the ultimate blame on the incompetence of the agencies who were responsible for the protection of children who were abused. The perpetrators remain ultimately responsible and I don't think we should lose sight of that.

 

Veronica

 

Ive not seen it Veronica but I'm led to believe in a BBC type way the word Muslim has not graced the airwaves yet ??? ... Given that as we know they were Muslim sick peado gangs it sounds like a total work of fiction

 

You are right Antony - the word Muslim hasn't been mentioned but the religious and cultural origins of the perpetrators are obvious by their names. I am going to watch the final episode tonight. I quite understand why you haven't got the stomach for it. So far it doesn't seem like a complete work of fiction to me. One thing for certain is that it has brought to our screens one of the biggest and most distressing scandals of our time.

 

Veronica

 

I don't watch much TV and this certainly would not be on my to watch list ... Had it been a factual documentary about the disgraceful way authorities did not act on nailed on evidence because they feared the race card would be used then maybe I might watch it ... Seems good old Auntie Beeb is carrying on with ignoring the facts that Muslim gangs carried out the underage sex assaults time after time on under age white girls ... Its like a Hollywood film claiming the Yanks cracked the enigma code ... Total tripe

[Violet1956]

antony1969 - 2017-05-18 9:09 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-18 7:37 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-05-18 7:15 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-18 6:59 PM

 

pelmetman - 2017-05-18 8:21 AM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-15 9:15 AM

 

perhaps you will find the time to watch the docudrama "Three Girls" I mentioned which is going to be aired from tomorrow night.

 

Veronica

 

 

I'm not watching it as I have to watch my blood pressure ;-) .......

 

Some folk maybe getting a wake up call at last >:-) ........

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/three-girls-episode-two-review-rochdales-damning-tale-sex-abuse/

 

Although I suspect its mainly an indictment of our incompetent authorities, than a condemnation of the culture that produces these perverts *-) .......

 

So I very much doubt if lessons will be learn't :-| ......

 

I think you're wise not to watch it Dave as I understand how outraged you are about what happened. The first two episodes have been harrowing. I would not lay the ultimate blame on the incompetence of the agencies who were responsible for the protection of children who were abused. The perpetrators remain ultimately responsible and I don't think we should lose sight of that.

 

Veronica

 

Ive not seen it Veronica but I'm led to believe in a BBC type way the word Muslim has not graced the airwaves yet ??? ... Given that as we know they were Muslim sick peado gangs it sounds like a total work of fiction

 

You are right Antony - the word Muslim hasn't been mentioned but the religious and cultural origins of the perpetrators are obvious by their names. I am going to watch the final episode tonight. I quite understand why you haven't got the stomach for it. So far it doesn't seem like a complete work of fiction to me. One thing for certain is that it has brought to our screens one of the biggest and most distressing scandals of our time.

 

Veronica

 

I don't watch much TV and this certainly would not be on my to watch list ... Had it been a factual documentary about the disgraceful way authorities did not act on nailed on evidence because they feared the race card would be used then maybe I might watch it ... Seems good old Auntie Beeb is carrying on with ignoring the facts that Muslim gangs carried out the underage sex assaults time after time on under age white girls ... Its like a Hollywood film claiming the Yanks cracked the enigma code ... Total tripe

 

Having watched the final episode Antony and compared it to what I had already gleaned from the Jay report it doesn't appear to me to have distorted the truth at all. But if you don't believe me why don't you steel yourself for what is no doubt some very upsetting and uncomfortable viewing and watch it for yourself on iplayer. That way we could have an informed debate about whether it was tripe or not. There was some comfort in the scene tonight where the guilty verdicts were announced and the fact that Shabir Ahmed got 19 years. He got a total of 22 after a further trial when he was convicted of raping an asian girl over several yearsI believe. An utterly debauched man whose religiousity is a complete joke.

 

Veronica

[Guest pelmetman]

Violet1956 - 2017-05-18 10:24 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-05-18 9:09 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-18 7:37 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-05-18 7:15 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-18 6:59 PM

 

pelmetman - 2017-05-18 8:21 AM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-15 9:15 AM

 

perhaps you will find the time to watch the docudrama "Three Girls" I mentioned which is going to be aired from tomorrow night.

 

Veronica

 

 

I'm not watching it as I have to watch my blood pressure ;-) .......

 

Some folk maybe getting a wake up call at last >:-) ........

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/three-girls-episode-two-review-rochdales-damning-tale-sex-abuse/

 

Although I suspect its mainly an indictment of our incompetent authorities, than a condemnation of the culture that produces these perverts *-) .......

 

So I very much doubt if lessons will be learn't :-| ......

 

I think you're wise not to watch it Dave as I understand how outraged you are about what happened. The first two episodes have been harrowing. I would not lay the ultimate blame on the incompetence of the agencies who were responsible for the protection of children who were abused. The perpetrators remain ultimately responsible and I don't think we should lose sight of that.

 

Veronica

 

Ive not seen it Veronica but I'm led to believe in a BBC type way the word Muslim has not graced the airwaves yet ??? ... Given that as we know they were Muslim sick peado gangs it sounds like a total work of fiction

 

You are right Antony - the word Muslim hasn't been mentioned but the religious and cultural origins of the perpetrators are obvious by their names. I am going to watch the final episode tonight. I quite understand why you haven't got the stomach for it. So far it doesn't seem like a complete work of fiction to me. One thing for certain is that it has brought to our screens one of the biggest and most distressing scandals of our time.

 

Veronica

 

I don't watch much TV and this certainly would not be on my to watch list ... Had it been a factual documentary about the disgraceful way authorities did not act on nailed on evidence because they feared the race card would be used then maybe I might watch it ... Seems good old Auntie Beeb is carrying on with ignoring the facts that Muslim gangs carried out the underage sex assaults time after time on under age white girls ... Its like a Hollywood film claiming the Yanks cracked the enigma code ... Total tripe

 

Having watched the final episode Antony and compared it to what I had already gleaned from the Jay report it doesn't appear to me to have distorted the truth at all. But if you don't believe me why don't you steel yourself for what is no doubt some very upsetting and uncomfortable viewing and watch it for yourself on iplayer. That way we could have an informed debate about whether it was tripe or not. There was some comfort in the scene tonight where the guilty verdicts were announced and the fact that Shabir Ahmed got 19 years. He got a total of 22 after a further trial when he was convicted of raping an asian girl over several yearsI believe. An utterly debauched man whose religiousity is a complete joke.

 

Veronica

 

BBC drama confirms truth of Baroness Jay report shock 8-) ..........

 

Well who'd of thought it? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......

 

Of course criminality is not endemic among that certain 5% of our population :-| ........the 15% occupying our prisons are just a blip *-) .......

 

 

[Violet1956]

pelmetman - 2017-05-19 8:22 AM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-18 10:24 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-05-18 9:09 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-18 7:37 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-05-18 7:15 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-18 6:59 PM

 

pelmetman - 2017-05-18 8:21 AM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-15 9:15 AM

 

perhaps you will find the time to watch the docudrama "Three Girls" I mentioned which is going to be aired from tomorrow night.

 

Veronica

 

 

I'm not watching it as I have to watch my blood pressure ;-) .......

 

Some folk maybe getting a wake up call at last >:-) ........

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/three-girls-episode-two-review-rochdales-damning-tale-sex-abuse/

 

Although I suspect its mainly an indictment of our incompetent authorities, than a condemnation of the culture that produces these perverts *-) .......

 

So I very much doubt if lessons will be learn't :-| ......

 

I think you're wise not to watch it Dave as I understand how outraged you are about what happened. The first two episodes have been harrowing. I would not lay the ultimate blame on the incompetence of the agencies who were responsible for the protection of children who were abused. The perpetrators remain ultimately responsible and I don't think we should lose sight of that.

 

Veronica

 

Ive not seen it Veronica but I'm led to believe in a BBC type way the word Muslim has not graced the airwaves yet ??? ... Given that as we know they were Muslim sick peado gangs it sounds like a total work of fiction

 

You are right Antony - the word Muslim hasn't been mentioned but the religious and cultural origins of the perpetrators are obvious by their names. I am going to watch the final episode tonight. I quite understand why you haven't got the stomach for it. So far it doesn't seem like a complete work of fiction to me. One thing for certain is that it has brought to our screens one of the biggest and most distressing scandals of our time.

 

Veronica

 

I don't watch much TV and this certainly would not be on my to watch list ... Had it been a factual documentary about the disgraceful way authorities did not act on nailed on evidence because they feared the race card would be used then maybe I might watch it ... Seems good old Auntie Beeb is carrying on with ignoring the facts that Muslim gangs carried out the underage sex assaults time after time on under age white girls ... Its like a Hollywood film claiming the Yanks cracked the enigma code ... Total tripe

 

Having watched the final episode Antony and compared it to what I had already gleaned from the Jay report it doesn't appear to me to have distorted the truth at all. But if you don't believe me why don't you steel yourself for what is no doubt some very upsetting and uncomfortable viewing and watch it for yourself on iplayer. That way we could have an informed debate about whether it was tripe or not. There was some comfort in the scene tonight where the guilty verdicts were announced and the fact that Shabir Ahmed got 19 years. He got a total of 22 after a further trial when he was convicted of raping an asian girl over several yearsI believe. An utterly debauched man whose religiousity is a complete joke.

 

Veronica

 

BBC drama confirms truth of Baroness Jay report shock 8-) ..........

 

Well who'd of thought it? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......

 

Of course criminality is not endemic among that certain 5% of our population :-| ........the 15% occupying our prisons are just a blip *-) .......

 

You haven't read the Jay report nor did you watch the three episodes Dave. In my book that makes your opinion on them valueless I'm sorry to say. I didn't say it confirms the truth btw I said it didn't distort the truth in answer to Antony's post. If you have any knowledge of either the programme or the Jay report that shows the truth was distorted in either then by all means share it. The statistics you quote don't do anything of the kind.

 

Veronica

 

Veronica

[antony1969]

Violet1956 - 2017-05-18 10:24 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-05-18 9:09 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-18 7:37 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-05-18 7:15 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-18 6:59 PM

 

pelmetman - 2017-05-18 8:21 AM

 

Violet1956 - 2017-05-15 9:15 AM

 

perhaps you will find the time to watch the docudrama "Three Girls" I mentioned which is going to be aired from tomorrow night.

 

Veronica

 

 

I'm not watching it as I have to watch my blood pressure ;-) .......

 

Some folk maybe getting a wake up call at last >:-) ........

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/three-girls-episode-two-review-rochdales-damning-tale-sex-abuse/

 

Although I suspect its mainly an indictment of our incompetent authorities, than a condemnation of the culture that produces these perverts *-) .......

 

So I very much doubt if lessons will be learn't :-| ......

 

I think you're wise not to watch it Dave as I understand how outraged you are about what happened. The first two episodes have been harrowing. I would not lay the ultimate blame on the incompetence of the agencies who were responsible for the protection of children who were abused. The perpetrators remain ultimately responsible and I don't think we should lose sight of that.

 

Veronica

 

Ive not seen it Veronica but I'm led to believe in a BBC type way the word Muslim has not graced the airwaves yet ??? ... Given that as we know they were Muslim sick peado gangs it sounds like a total work of fiction

 

You are right Antony - the word Muslim hasn't been mentioned but the religious and cultural origins of the perpetrators are obvious by their names. I am going to watch the final episode tonight. I quite understand why you haven't got the stomach for it. So far it doesn't seem like a complete work of fiction to me. One thing for certain is that it has brought to our screens one of the biggest and most distressing scandals of our time.

 

Veronica

 

I don't watch much TV and this certainly would not be on my to watch list ... Had it been a factual documentary about the disgraceful way authorities did not act on nailed on evidence because they feared the race card would be used then maybe I might watch it ... Seems good old Auntie Beeb is carrying on with ignoring the facts that Muslim gangs carried out the underage sex assaults time after time on under age white girls ... Its like a Hollywood film claiming the Yanks cracked the enigma code ... Total tripe

 

Having watched the final episode Antony and compared it to what I had already gleaned from the Jay report it doesn't appear to me to have distorted the truth at all. But if you don't believe me why don't you steel yourself for what is no doubt some very upsetting and uncomfortable viewing and watch it for yourself on iplayer. That way we could have an informed debate about whether it was tripe or not. There was some comfort in the scene tonight where the guilty verdicts were announced and the fact that Shabir Ahmed got 19 years. He got a total of 22 after a further trial when he was convicted of raping an asian girl over several yearsI believe. An utterly debauched man whose religiousity is a complete joke.

 

Veronica

 

When you say Asian girl raped by Ahmed I presume she was a Hindu and not Muslim ... After underage white girls the next favourites are Hindu girls ... Did the programme mention the Muslim word last night ... Probably not I guess ... wonder if they would make a programme about Saville and Glitter and the sick abuse they dished but didn't mention they were celebrities and thats why they got away with it for years

[Barryd999]

I have not watched them yet. I Started watching the first ten minutes but had to do something else. I guess I will give them a go though. Ill reserve comment until then but why would there be a need to keep mentioning Muslims anyway? If it was a gang of white peodo's would it make sense to refer to them as white Christian men or just white men? Anyone who commits that kind of act by default cannot be remotely truly religious by any modern interpretation of any peaceful religion just like those that commit acts of terrorism are not a true representative of any religion.

 

I dont buy that these people deliberately pray on white girls either. Someone who is a sick Paedo will pray on whoever is most easily available and easily groomed. From what I can gather firstly young white girls are in a huge majority over Asian girls and it would appear that they are also allowed much more of a free reign and freedom than most young Muslim girls. It stands to reason that these sick individuals would come across them more.