Barryd999 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Wont an American Focus have the steering wheel on the wrong side anyway? (lol) Why would the Americans do us a favour anyway and sell us cheap Fords assuming we were daft enough to go that route? They will charge us what they can get away with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Barryd999 - 2018-08-21 12:18 PM They will charge us what they can get away with. Isn't that what you do? ;-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-08-21 12:24 PM Barryd999 - 2018-08-21 12:18 PM They will charge us what they can get away with. Isn't that what you do? ;-) ........... He does but he gives most of it to the needy ... Booze Busters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 antony1969 - 2018-08-21 12:27 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-21 12:24 PM Barryd999 - 2018-08-21 12:18 PM They will charge us what they can get away with. Isn't that what you do? ;-) ........... He does but he gives most of it to the needy ... Booze Busters I thought it was the chippy :D .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-08-21 11:58 AM Bulletguy - 2018-08-21 11:09 AM They aren't that much cheaper at all and by the time import tax has been added, they would cost more, not to mention they don't even provide the same choice of engine range. Correct they provide a better choice ;-) .......... No they don't.....they provide a very limited choice of powertrain. Take a look. Like a petrol automatic for the Transit B-) .......... What business would ever entertain purchasing a fleet of automatic Transits, and petrol too?!! That's dead money straight away. BTW the import tax we currently get charged is dictated by the EU >:-) ........... No it isn't, it's set by HMRC according to make/model/spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Not all Barry's are Batty B-) .......... https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1006253/Brexit-news-Barry-Gardiner-second-UK-EU-withdrawal-referendum-vote-Labour-latest :D ................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-08-21 12:02 PM Bulletguy - 2018-08-21 11:09 AM BMW, Mercedes and VW Audi don't build 'crap'.... Really?...........Ask a AA relay truck driver >:-) ......... Yeah i just asked that AA bloke whose always carting your tub around on the back of his truck. He said it's a good job BMW, Mercs and Audis are so reliable as we're forever picking up that old scrap Ford van some bloke lives in. (lol)(lol)(lol)(lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-08-21 12:47 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-21 11:58 AM BTW the import tax we currently get charged is dictated by the EU >:-) ........... No it isn't, it's set by HMRC according to make/model/spec. Its not often you're right ;-) .............But you're WRONG AGAIN >:-) ........ • In some cases, US and EU duties are different even on the same product. For example: for cars: o EU duty on imports from the US is 10% o US duty on imports from the EU is only 2.5% http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2015/january/tradoc_152998.1%20Trade%20in%20goods%20and%20customs%20tariffs.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-08-21 1:00 PM Bulletguy - 2018-08-21 12:47 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-21 11:58 AM BTW the import tax we currently get charged is dictated by the EU >:-) ........... No it isn't, it's set by HMRC according to make/model/spec. Its not often you're right ;-) .............But you're WRONG AGAIN >:-) ........ • In some cases, US and EU duties are different even on the same product. For example: for cars: o EU duty on imports from the US is 10% o US duty on imports from the EU is only 2.5% http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2015/january/tradoc_152998.1%20Trade%20in%20goods%20and%20customs%20tariffs.pdf So you believe in Brexitland price of new vehicles will drop by 7.5%? Dream on......HMRC set our taxes and UK Gov Exchequer likes collecting money. https://www.gov.uk/importing-vehicles-into-the-uk/paying-vat-and-duty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-08-21 3:02 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-21 1:00 PM Bulletguy - 2018-08-21 12:47 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-21 11:58 AM BTW the import tax we currently get charged is dictated by the EU >:-) ........... No it isn't, it's set by HMRC according to make/model/spec. Its not often you're right ;-) .............But you're WRONG AGAIN >:-) ........ • In some cases, US and EU duties are different even on the same product. For example: for cars: o EU duty on imports from the US is 10% o US duty on imports from the EU is only 2.5% http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2015/january/tradoc_152998.1%20Trade%20in%20goods%20and%20customs%20tariffs.pdf So you believe in Brexitland price of new vehicles will drop by 7.5%? Dream on......HMRC set our taxes and UK Gov Exchequer likes collecting money. https://www.gov.uk/importing-vehicles-into-the-uk/paying-vat-and-duty Is that you admitting you were wrong? :D ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-08-21 3:05 PM Bulletguy - 2018-08-21 3:02 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-21 1:00 PM Bulletguy - 2018-08-21 12:47 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-21 11:58 AM BTW the import tax we currently get charged is dictated by the EU >:-) ........... No it isn't, it's set by HMRC according to make/model/spec. Its not often you're right ;-) .............But you're WRONG AGAIN >:-) ........ • In some cases, US and EU duties are different even on the same product. For example: for cars: o EU duty on imports from the US is 10% o US duty on imports from the EU is only 2.5% http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2015/january/tradoc_152998.1%20Trade%20in%20goods%20and%20customs%20tariffs.pdf So you believe in Brexitland price of new vehicles will drop by 7.5%? Dream on......HMRC set our taxes and UK Gov Exchequer likes collecting money. https://www.gov.uk/importing-vehicles-into-the-uk/paying-vat-and-duty Is that you admitting you were wrong? :D ............ Nope......it's me asking if you are still living in cloud cuckoo land. You are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-08-21 12:52 PM Not all Barry's are Batty B-) .......... https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1006253/Brexit-news-Barry-Gardiner-second-UK-EU-withdrawal-referendum-vote-Labour-latest :D ................. What an odious little cretin that bloke is. "civil disobedience." he says! What? from a bunch of Brexit Pensioners! What are they gonna do wrap a Zimmer Frame around Chuka Umunna's head? Then he says "Those people who now want a second referendum are saying ‘because you voted in the wrong way, we’ll give you another chance to get it right,' that undermines the whole principle of democracy in this country." Thats not the case at all. I would be more inclined to respect the results of the referendum if they had any chance of achieving what people actually voted for and thats the point. What we will eventually be offered will likely be nothing like what most people envisaged in 2016 when Sewage and the like were promising we could be like Norway, Easiest deal in History, they need us more than we need them, Nobody is threatening our membership of the single market etc etc etc. Nobody voted or at least the majority did not vote to be much worse off with a no deal Brexit. So what we are saying is as the goal posts have clearly changed and Brexit looks nothing like it was sold so is it not a sensible option to let the people decide once we know whats on offer? If Labour change their stance on that like their members are asking them to whats cretin Gardnier going to say then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-08-21 12:24 PM Barryd999 - 2018-08-21 12:18 PM They will charge us what they can get away with. Isn't that what you do? ;-) ........... Yes, Im expensive. You get what you pay for though. Brexit is cheap, prolly why I dont like it. Everything about it says Poundland Britain to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Barryd999 - 2018-08-21 4:39 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-21 12:52 PM Not all Barry's are Batty B-) .......... https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1006253/Brexit-news-Barry-Gardiner-second-UK-EU-withdrawal-referendum-vote-Labour-latest :D ................. What an odious little cretin that bloke is. "civil disobedience." he says! What? from a bunch of Brexit Pensioners! What are they gonna do wrap a Zimmer Frame around Chuka Umunna's head? Then he says "Those people who now want a second referendum are saying ‘because you voted in the wrong way, we’ll give you another chance to get it right,' that undermines the whole principle of democracy in this country." Thats not the case at all. I would be more inclined to respect the results of the referendum if they had any chance of achieving what people actually voted for and thats the point. What we will eventually be offered will likely be nothing like what most people envisaged in 2016 when Sewage and the like were promising we could be like Norway, Easiest deal in History, they need us more than we need them, Nobody is threatening our membership of the single market etc etc etc. Nobody voted or at least the majority did not vote to be much worse off with a no deal Brexit. So what we are saying is as the goal posts have clearly changed and Brexit looks nothing like it was sold so is it not a sensible option to let the people decide once we know whats on offer? If Labour change their stance on that like their members are asking them to whats cretin Gardnier going to say then? +1 :-D I head the interview. His reasoning appears to be that "we" must stick to the referendum outcome come what may. If that is really his attitude, then for my money he should be deselected as an MP for gross dereliction of duty. His job is not to blindly follow the public whim, however that whim is/was expressed, it is to use his own judgement, supported by the considerable resources that parliament places at his disposal at our expense, to reach act in the best interests of the UK. That is what we pay our MPs to do. What I thought I was hearing instead was someone trying to buy personal favour at whatever cost to the country. Odd behaviour for a politician, some might say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Brian Kirby - 2018-08-21 7:25 PM His job is not to blindly follow the public whim, however that whim is/was expressed, it is to use his own judgement, supported by the considerable resources that parliament places at his disposal at our expense, to reach act in the best interests of the UK. That is what we pay our MPs to do. We pay them to carry out the wishes of the voters :-| ............. Why else do we bother to have elections???? *-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-08-21 8:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2018-08-21 7:25 PM His job is not to blindly follow the public whim, however that whim is/was expressed, it is to use his own judgement, supported by the considerable resources that parliament places at his disposal at our expense, to reach act in the best interests of the UK. That is what we pay our MPs to do. We pay them to carry out the wishes of the voters :-| ............. Why else do we bother to have elections???? *-) .......... I thought we paid them to run the country and make decisions on our behalf. They have a duty to not endorse or carry through anything that will knowingly damage our country and economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Barryd999 - 2018-08-21 9:49 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-21 8:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2018-08-21 7:25 PM His job is not to blindly follow the public whim, however that whim is/was expressed, it is to use his own judgement, supported by the considerable resources that parliament places at his disposal at our expense, to reach act in the best interests of the UK. That is what we pay our MPs to do. We pay them to carry out the wishes of the voters :-| ............. Why else do we bother to have elections???? *-) .......... I thought we paid them to run the country and make decisions on our behalf. They have a duty to not endorse or carry through anything that will knowingly damage our country and economy. Like mass immigration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 antony1969 - 2018-08-22 6:11 AM Barryd999 - 2018-08-21 9:49 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-21 8:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2018-08-21 7:25 PM His job is not to blindly follow the public whim, however that whim is/was expressed, it is to use his own judgement, supported by the considerable resources that parliament places at his disposal at our expense, to reach act in the best interests of the UK. That is what we pay our MPs to do. We pay them to carry out the wishes of the voters :-| ............. Why else do we bother to have elections???? *-) .......... I thought we paid them to run the country and make decisions on our behalf. They have a duty to not endorse or carry through anything that will knowingly damage our country and economy. Like mass immigration Which even Foxy has now said recently that it wont change much and they still wont meet targets. The biggest reason people voted for Brexit and it wont change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Barryd999 - 2018-08-21 9:49 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-21 8:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2018-08-21 7:25 PM His job is not to blindly follow the public whim, however that whim is/was expressed, it is to use his own judgement, supported by the considerable resources that parliament places at his disposal at our expense, to reach act in the best interests of the UK. That is what we pay our MPs to do. We pay them to carry out the wishes of the voters :-| ............. Why else do we bother to have elections???? *-) .......... I thought we paid them to run the country and make decisions on our behalf. They have a duty to not endorse or carry through anything that will knowingly damage our country and economy. So why have elections? :-| ............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-08-22 10:58 AM Barryd999 - 2018-08-21 9:49 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-21 8:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2018-08-21 7:25 PM His job is not to blindly follow the public whim, however that whim is/was expressed, it is to use his own judgement, supported by the considerable resources that parliament places at his disposal at our expense, to reach act in the best interests of the UK. That is what we pay our MPs to do. We pay them to carry out the wishes of the voters :-| ............. Why else do we bother to have elections???? *-) .......... I thought we paid them to run the country and make decisions on our behalf. They have a duty to not endorse or carry through anything that will knowingly damage our country and economy. So why have elections? :-| ............... Because the people may not be happy with the decisions they are making, how they run the economy, public services etc but I am pretty sure its against the rules for any MP To back or endorse something that they know will damage the country whether they are in government or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Barryd999 - 2018-08-22 2:14 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-22 10:58 AM Barryd999 - 2018-08-21 9:49 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-21 8:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2018-08-21 7:25 PM His job is not to blindly follow the public whim, however that whim is/was expressed, it is to use his own judgement, supported by the considerable resources that parliament places at his disposal at our expense, to reach act in the best interests of the UK. That is what we pay our MPs to do. We pay them to carry out the wishes of the voters :-| ............. Why else do we bother to have elections???? *-) .......... I thought we paid them to run the country and make decisions on our behalf. They have a duty to not endorse or carry through anything that will knowingly damage our country and economy. So why have elections? :-| ............... Because the people may not be happy with the decisions they are making, how they run the economy, public services etc but I am pretty sure its against the rules for any MP To back or endorse something that they know will damage the country whether they are in government or not. It's funny how selective you Remoaners have become *-) .......... Did going to war twice with Germany not damage the country? (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... It's also funny how Remoaner MP's can suddenly see into the future :-S .......... given the expert mystic ability they've displayed so far I wont be wetting myself anytime soon.........except with laughter >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-08-22 2:27 PM Did going to war twice with Germany not damage the country? (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Temporarily yes - but not in the long term. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Barryd999 - 2018-08-22 10:54 AM antony1969 - 2018-08-22 6:11 AM Barryd999 - 2018-08-21 9:49 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-21 8:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2018-08-21 7:25 PM His job is not to blindly follow the public whim, however that whim is/was expressed, it is to use his own judgement, supported by the considerable resources that parliament places at his disposal at our expense, to reach act in the best interests of the UK. That is what we pay our MPs to do. We pay them to carry out the wishes of the voters :-| ............. Why else do we bother to have elections???? *-) .......... I thought we paid them to run the country and make decisions on our behalf. They have a duty to not endorse or carry through anything that will knowingly damage our country and economy. Like mass immigration Which even Foxy has now said recently that it wont change much and they still wont meet targets. The biggest reason people voted for Brexit and it wont change. So now you believe Foxy ??? Make ya mind up ... It's too late for mass immigration damaging our country Barry ... Take look around ya ... Well not your whites only village you've escaped to of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 malc d - 2018-08-22 2:39 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-22 2:27 PM Did going to war twice with Germany not damage the country? (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Temporarily yes - but not in the long term. :-| Where as Brexit seems to be improving UK PLC B-) ........... Despite the doom & gloom merchants best efforts :D .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-08-22 2:42 PM malc d - 2018-08-22 2:39 PM pelmetman - 2018-08-22 2:27 PM Did going to war twice with Germany not damage the country? (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Temporarily yes - but not in the long term. :-| Where as Brexit seems to be improving UK PLC B-) ........... Despite the doom & gloom merchants best efforts :D .......... The Brexiteers who seem to think we have already left the EU certainly seem to be happy. Lets just hope we can ALL be celebrating in a couple of years time. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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