Bulletguy Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-12-31 9:12 AM Bulletguy - 2019-12-30 8:11 PM Barryd999 - 2019-12-30 6:34 PM jumpstart - 2019-12-30 5:58 PM There might , just might be other markets out there. There is, lots and we already trade with many of them but why jeopardise the biggest one thats right on your doorstep? Pretty much what Johnson himself wrote! :-| The EU is a market on our doorstep, ready for further exploitation by British firms: the membership fee seems rather small for all that access. Why are we so determined to turn our back on it? Shouldn't our policy be like our policy on cake - pro having it and pro eating it? Pro Europe and pro the rest of the world? What's the problem? ;-) ............. You Losers keep saying people have changed their minds :D ......... Boris obviously did (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... As you will when you eventually find he can't deliver 'promises' made off the back of lies. It's about time you headed for your final destination......Beachy Head......we want to come and cheer as you throw yourself off over the edge. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-12-31 3:56 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-31 9:12 AM Bulletguy - 2019-12-30 8:11 PM Barryd999 - 2019-12-30 6:34 PM jumpstart - 2019-12-30 5:58 PM There might , just might be other markets out there. There is, lots and we already trade with many of them but why jeopardise the biggest one thats right on your doorstep? Pretty much what Johnson himself wrote! :-| The EU is a market on our doorstep, ready for further exploitation by British firms: the membership fee seems rather small for all that access. Why are we so determined to turn our back on it? Shouldn't our policy be like our policy on cake - pro having it and pro eating it? Pro Europe and pro the rest of the world? What's the problem? ;-) ............. You Losers keep saying people have changed their minds :D ......... Boris obviously did (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... As you will when you eventually find he can't deliver 'promises' made off the back of lies. It's about time you headed for your final destination......Beachy Head......we want to come and cheer as you throw yourself off over the edge. :-D Ooooh Bitchy Head :D ......... I'm in no rush to pop my clogs early..... as I now know I have quite a few years before I have to endure another Socialist government B-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 pelmetman - 2019-12-31 9:16 AM Barryd999 - 2019-12-30 6:34 PM jumpstart - 2019-12-30 5:58 PM There might , just might be other markets out there. There is, lots and we already trade with many of them but why jeopardise the biggest one thats right on your doorstep? Seems to me it's the EU who wants to jeopardise their market ;-) .......... Not very wise when who have 18 basket case economies to support (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48256318 That's yet another link you haven't read properly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-01-01 3:22 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-31 9:16 AM Barryd999 - 2019-12-30 6:34 PM jumpstart - 2019-12-30 5:58 PM There might , just might be other markets out there. There is, lots and we already trade with many of them but why jeopardise the biggest one thats right on your doorstep? Seems to me it's the EU who wants to jeopardise their market ;-) .......... Not very wise when who have 18 basket case economies to support (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48256318 That's yet another link you haven't read properly! Well if you want to nitpick Brian *-) .......... 2 of the 18 countries actually get back what they pay in ;-) ........ So that's just 16 basket case economies the other 9 have to support >:-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 This puts a slightly different take on “ nobody knew what they were voting for”.... https://apple.news/AAAJKhgiQQjqb_w-mcRQogg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 jumpstart - 2020-01-01 4:52 PM This puts a slightly different take on “ nobody knew what they were voting for”.... https://apple.news/AAAJKhgiQQjqb_w-mcRQogg Interesting. Same author, slightly different (and rather less hysterical) analysis: https://tinyurl.com/wgwpaq9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-01-01 4:25 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-01-01 3:22 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-31 9:16 AM Barryd999 - 2019-12-30 6:34 PM jumpstart - 2019-12-30 5:58 PM There might , just might be other markets out there. There is, lots and we already trade with many of them but why jeopardise the biggest one thats right on your doorstep? Seems to me it's the EU who wants to jeopardise their market ;-) .......... Not very wise when who have 18 basket case economies to support (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48256318 That's yet another link you haven't read properly! Well if you want to nitpick Brian *-) .......... 2 of the 18 countries actually get back what they pay in ;-) ........ So that's just 16 basket case economies the other 9 have to support >:-) ........ Two things you still seem to have missed. What you are labelling as "basket economies" are merely those which, through the EU's allocation of contributions according to GDP, end up being net recipients rather than net contributors. That is not a measure of the health of their economy, any more than GDP alone is. Luxemburg, the EU state with the highest per capita GDP of all - by quite some margin - ends up as a net recipient because it receives payments from the EU for its hosting of various EU functions. Second, a number of those "basket case economies" (25 in fact) had growth rates in 2018 that exceeded the growth rate of the UK, which would seem to leave the stagnating UK economy (on 1.93% growth) as one of the biggest basket cases of all! To increase wealth, you have to grow your economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-01-01 5:45 PM Second, a number of those "basket case economies" (25 in fact) had growth rates in 2018 that exceeded the growth rate of the UK, which would seem to leave the stagnating UK economy (on 1.93% growth) as one of the biggest basket cases of all! To increase wealth, you have to grow your economy. Its easy to have a increased GDP when some other mug is picking up the tab *-) ........ I expect our GDP to grow once we have a extra billion + a month to spend in our economy B-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-01-01 5:23 PM jumpstart - 2020-01-01 4:52 PM This puts a slightly different take on “ nobody knew what they were voting for”.... https://apple.news/AAAJKhgiQQjqb_w-mcRQogg Interesting. Same author, slightly different (and rather less hysterical) analysis: https://tinyurl.com/wgwpaq9 Shows the reluctance to change, shows with GB leaving they acknowledged they will have too. Interesting words from DeGaulle: Q. How do you stop German dominance. A. With war of coarse. Also Macmillan’ s speech in 1953 foresaw that eec will end with a Federal Europe which will not suit Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-01-01 5:23 PM jumpstart - 2020-01-01 4:52 PM This puts a slightly different take on “ nobody knew what they were voting for”.... https://apple.news/AAAJKhgiQQjqb_w-mcRQogg Interesting. Same author, slightly different (and rather less hysterical) analysis: https://tinyurl.com/wgwpaq9 Good link Brian. Maybe I am biased but that sounds like leaving the EU is a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-01-01 6:30 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-01-01 5:45 PM Second, a number of those "basket case economies" (25 in fact) had growth rates in 2018 that exceeded the growth rate of the UK, which would seem to leave the stagnating UK economy (on 1.93% growth) as one of the biggest basket cases of all! To increase wealth, you have to grow your economy. Its easy to have a increased GDP when some other mug is picking up the tab *-) ........ I expect our GDP to grow once we have a extra billion + a month to spend in our economy B-) ........ Dave, GDP stands for Gross Domestic Product, which is what you produce, not what loans etc you receive from outside. You just don't get this economic stuff, do you? :-D They have to make it for it to count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 I think he knew that Brian, that's why he said it would GROW if there was more investment Capital available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-01-02 6:44 PM pelmetman - 2020-01-01 6:30 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-01-01 5:45 PM Second, a number of those "basket case economies" (25 in fact) had growth rates in 2018 that exceeded the growth rate of the UK, which would seem to leave the stagnating UK economy (on 1.93% growth) as one of the biggest basket cases of all! To increase wealth, you have to grow your economy. Its easy to have a increased GDP when some other mug is picking up the tab *-) ........ I expect our GDP to grow once we have a extra billion + a month to spend in our economy B-) ........ Dave, GDP stands for Gross Domestic Product, which is what you produce, not what loans etc you receive from outside. You just don't get this economic stuff, do you? :-D They have to make it for it to count. So Fartpart's bung from the EU was for what purpose...... if it wasn't to increase his GDP? >:-) ......... Maybe it was so he could buy a new camper ;-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 747 - 2020-01-02 7:09 PM I think he knew that Brian, that's why he said it would GROW if there was more investment Capital available. Exactly.......We will soon have a billion + a month to help grow our GDP B-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 But that money will stay with the exchequer, so until the government decides whether it reduce tax, or how otherwise to spend it, it will make no contribution whatever to GDP until whatever sum it turns out to be (Billion a month?? Ho, ho!), will it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-01-03 1:13 PM But that money will stay with the exchequer, so until the government decides whether it reduce tax, or how otherwise to spend it, it will make no contribution whatever to GDP until whatever sum it turns out to be (Billion a month?? Ho, ho!), will it? Nice to have that option init Brian? ;-) ......... Unlike Labour who left a note saying "Sorry there's no money left" *-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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