Guest pelmetman Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 colin - 2021-11-22 2:12 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-22 2:05 PM colin - 2021-11-22 1:26 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-22 1:07 PM John52 - 2021-11-22 12:58 PM John52 - 2021-11-22 7:53 AM Why do you think their introducing a lock down suggests they are not managing it better than Johnson? Dave? Is it because you think the EU is like Johnson and wouldn't introduce a lock down until the situation is dire? Nope I think its because Boris opened us up early in the summer, as he knew we couldn't stop the Delta varient from spreading, so much better to allow it to do its worst in the summer months :-| ............ Where as in the EU they have let it run riot just in time for winter 8-) ............ Only it isn't panning out like that, UK cases are on the rise again after the half term lull. My area seems to have always led the way for rest of country, and the last week or so CV-19 infections and deaths have increased by worrying amounts, if this continues we will have a very bad winter even after killing thousands through summer and autumn. We're heading into winter, so cases were always going to rise :-| ....... So you now disagree with your earlier post. Where did I say infections wouldn't increase? :-S ........... They're not increasing here by the same rate as it is in the EU because the Delta Variant has already done its worst in the summer :-| ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 colin - 2021-11-22 2:12 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-22 2:05 PM colin - 2021-11-22 1:26 PM Only it isn't panning out like that, UK cases are on the rise again after the half term lull. My area seems to have always led the way for rest of country, and the last week or so CV-19 infections and deaths have increased by worrying amounts, if this continues we will have a very bad winter even after killing thousands through summer and autumn. We're heading into winter, so cases were always going to rise :-| ....... So you now disagree with your earlier post. (lol)(lol)(lol)(lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-22 2:05 PM colin - 2021-11-22 1:26 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-22 1:07 PM John52 - 2021-11-22 12:58 PM John52 - 2021-11-22 7:53 AM Why do you think their introducing a lock down suggests they are not managing it better than Johnson? Dave? Is it because you think the EU is like Johnson and wouldn't introduce a lock down until the situation is dire? Nope I think its because Boris opened us up early in the summer, as he knew we couldn't stop the Delta varient from spreading, so much better to allow it to do its worst in the summer months :-| ............ Where as in the EU they have let it run riot just in time for winter 8-) ............ Only it isn't panning out like that, UK cases are on the rise again after the half term lull. My area seems to have always led the way for rest of country, and the last week or so CV-19 infections and deaths have increased by worrying amounts, if this continues we will have a very bad winter even after killing thousands through summer and autumn. We're heading into winter, so cases were always going to rise :-| ....... The difference is that our vaccine take up has been superiour to the EU's despite what the forums EU lovers would have you believe ;-) ....... We're queing up for our boosters where many in the EU are still refusing even their first jab 8-) ......... Which is why the Fourth Reich are now donning their Jack Boots to make it compulsary, because Merkel & Macron F*cked up when they slagged off AZ *-) .......... Worra pair of Cretins :-| ......... Angela Merkal had the AZ Vaccine herself. She said "AstraZeneca is a reliable vaccine, effective and safe, approved by the European Medicine Agency and recommended in Germany up to the age of 65," she told the Frankfurter Allgemeine." https://www.dw.com/en/angelamerkel-gets-her-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-shot/a-57222191 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Covid super spreader.....first at Cop26 asleep alongside 95 year old Sir David Attenborough, and the other on a packed train. He's so selfish he just doesn't care about anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Barryd999 - 2021-11-22 2:24 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-22 2:05 PM colin - 2021-11-22 1:26 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-22 1:07 PM John52 - 2021-11-22 12:58 PM John52 - 2021-11-22 7:53 AM Why do you think their introducing a lock down suggests they are not managing it better than Johnson? Dave? Is it because you think the EU is like Johnson and wouldn't introduce a lock down until the situation is dire? Nope I think its because Boris opened us up early in the summer, as he knew we couldn't stop the Delta varient from spreading, so much better to allow it to do its worst in the summer months :-| ............ Where as in the EU they have let it run riot just in time for winter 8-) ............ Only it isn't panning out like that, UK cases are on the rise again after the half term lull. My area seems to have always led the way for rest of country, and the last week or so CV-19 infections and deaths have increased by worrying amounts, if this continues we will have a very bad winter even after killing thousands through summer and autumn. We're heading into winter, so cases were always going to rise :-| ....... The difference is that our vaccine take up has been superiour to the EU's despite what the forums EU lovers would have you believe ;-) ....... We're queing up for our boosters where many in the EU are still refusing even their first jab 8-) ......... Which is why the Fourth Reich are now donning their Jack Boots to make it compulsary, because Merkel & Macron F*cked up when they slagged off AZ *-) .......... Worra pair of Cretins :-| ......... Angela Merkal had the AZ Vaccine herself. She said "AstraZeneca is a reliable vaccine, effective and safe, approved by the European Medicine Agency and recommended in Germany up to the age of 65," she told the Frankfurter Allgemeine." https://www.dw.com/en/angelamerkel-gets-her-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-shot/a-57222191 Before that....... she said ........"Chancellor Angela Merkel has defended Germany's decision to advise against the use of AstraZeneca for under-60s in the country, saying findings could not be ignored.".......... and gave the antivaxxers Morons an excuse to refuse the vaccine *-) ......... https://www.thelocal.de/20210330/germany-cannot-ignore-astrazeneca-findings-says-merkel/ BTW she's 67 so has ignored her own advice (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-22 3:13 PM Barryd999 - 2021-11-22 2:24 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-22 2:05 PM colin - 2021-11-22 1:26 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-22 1:07 PM John52 - 2021-11-22 12:58 PM John52 - 2021-11-22 7:53 AM Why do you think their introducing a lock down suggests they are not managing it better than Johnson? Dave? Is it because you think the EU is like Johnson and wouldn't introduce a lock down until the situation is dire? Nope I think its because Boris opened us up early in the summer, as he knew we couldn't stop the Delta varient from spreading, so much better to allow it to do its worst in the summer months :-| ............ Where as in the EU they have let it run riot just in time for winter 8-) ............ Only it isn't panning out like that, UK cases are on the rise again after the half term lull. My area seems to have always led the way for rest of country, and the last week or so CV-19 infections and deaths have increased by worrying amounts, if this continues we will have a very bad winter even after killing thousands through summer and autumn. We're heading into winter, so cases were always going to rise :-| ....... The difference is that our vaccine take up has been superiour to the EU's despite what the forums EU lovers would have you believe ;-) ....... We're queing up for our boosters where many in the EU are still refusing even their first jab 8-) ......... Which is why the Fourth Reich are now donning their Jack Boots to make it compulsary, because Merkel & Macron F*cked up when they slagged off AZ *-) .......... Worra pair of Cretins :-| ......... Angela Merkal had the AZ Vaccine herself. She said "AstraZeneca is a reliable vaccine, effective and safe, approved by the European Medicine Agency and recommended in Germany up to the age of 65," she told the Frankfurter Allgemeine." https://www.dw.com/en/angelamerkel-gets-her-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-shot/a-57222191 Before that....... she said ........"Chancellor Angela Merkel has defended Germany's decision to advise against the use of AstraZeneca for under-60s in the country, saying findings could not be ignored.".......... and gave the antivaxxers Morons an excuse to refuse the vaccine *-) ......... https://www.thelocal.de/20210330/germany-cannot-ignore-astrazeneca-findings-says-merkel/ BTW she's 67 so has ignored her own advice (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... No she hasn't. *-) The second para in Barrys link clearly states "AZ is only available to over 60's in Germany due to the marginal risk of blood clots." *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-22 2:18 PM colin - 2021-11-22 2:12 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-22 2:05 PM colin - 2021-11-22 1:26 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-22 1:07 PM John52 - 2021-11-22 12:58 PM John52 - 2021-11-22 7:53 AM Why do you think their introducing a lock down suggests they are not managing it better than Johnson? Dave? Is it because you think the EU is like Johnson and wouldn't introduce a lock down until the situation is dire? Nope I think its because Boris opened us up early in the summer, as he knew we couldn't stop the Delta varient from spreading, so much better to allow it to do its worst in the summer months :-| ............ Where as in the EU they have let it run riot just in time for winter 8-) ............ Only it isn't panning out like that, UK cases are on the rise again after the half term lull. My area seems to have always led the way for rest of country, and the last week or so CV-19 infections and deaths have increased by worrying amounts, if this continues we will have a very bad winter even after killing thousands through summer and autumn. We're heading into winter, so cases were always going to rise :-| ....... So you now disagree with your earlier post. Where did I say infections wouldn't increase? :-S ........... They're not increasing here by the same rate as it is in the EU because the Delta Variant has already done its worst in the summer :-| ......... You said it was to allow it to do it's worst in the summer months, well not only did it do it's worst then, it continued on this course, so whilst the EU now has a case rate of 339 per 100,000 here we have a case rate of 428 per 100,000 and as across the whole of Europe it is increasing here. Whilst we are undoubtedly doing better than some EU countries, we are not doing better than the EU as a whole nor against those countries such as France and Germany which I consider to be more like us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-22 1:02 PM Brian Kirby - 2021-11-22 12:12 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-22 10:42 AM Oh dear oh dear *-) .......... The squad clearly hate the thought that Boris and Brexit Blighty might be handling the Pandemic better than their EU heros :-| ........ https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/covid-news-uk-europe-cases-infection-christmas_uk_619b57b3e4b07fe2010de26f?yptr=yahoo What sad misrable LOSERS they are (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Depends on what you read, and how you read it, doesn't it? This is from the transcript of Scully's Talk Radio interview, as in Dave's link. "We will always work on the latest data, but we want to make sure – we don’t see anything yet that suggests we’re going anywhere near plan B." So, you and a friend are standing on a railway line, and someone shouts that a train is coming. Your friends steps off the track, but you stay where you are, saying "I want to be sure". The train comes, and your dying words are "Now I'm sure"! That is the difference. Who would you rather be, your living friend, or your dead self? The one takes note of a warning of a fatal event, and acts, the other awaits proof positive. It is called the pile of bodies syndrome. His boss subscribes to the same philosophy, see the favourite organ of the Tory faithful, here: https://tinyurl.com/5bwhujcm Whatever advice is given, from whatever reliable and respected source, if it conflicts with their instincts it is pushed aside in favour of inaction, on the basis that it may never happen so is not worth spending time and money averting. Until, of course, it happens - when it is a) recognised too late to avert, and b) more expensive emergency measures are required - which then take time to implement while the disaster rolls on, leading to even worse outcomes, hostile public opinion, panic, further emergency measures, yet more, even more expensive, emergency measures, and so on and on. Eventually, having spent a King's ransom on only partially effective panic measures the tide turns and a resounding victory is declared, with the victors standing on the pile of bodies their earlier inaction caused. The classic defence then is that no-one can actually prove that the actions they might have taken would have significantly altered the outcome, so wait and see was the prudent stance. It is government by hubris and cognitive dissonance. It is not new. Boris, the classicist, should know all about it: the historic precedents are numerous. This is a government for the good times, that would in ay case have left an expensive legacy for its successor to put right, that has found itself governing in the bad times - with which it is emotionally unable to cope, and so remains standing on the railway line waiting to see what others can already see. Of course, we shall all pay the eventual price for that - when I suspect that many of the Tory bourgeoisie will deny their role in bringing it about. So you'll ignore the EU bourgeoisie, like Macron the Moron and Co slagging off AZ and in doing so adding fuel to the EU's antvaxxer idiots fire? *-) .......... Obviously those blinkers EU LOSERS wear are very selective in what they allow you to see (lol) (lol) (lol) ........ Dave, you'll have to help me out here. Where, in what I wrote above, do I lead you to that conclusion? The whole thing is about the governments response to foreseeable risk, their reluctance to act on it, and the implications for the rest of us of that. What on earth does any of that have to do with "the EU bourgeoisie", with what Macron or others said about Astra Zenica, or with anti-vaxers? The connections aren't even implicit. Or were you replying to someone else and got your posts muddled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-11-22 2:15 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-22 2:12 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-11-22 2:04 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-22 1:53 PM Yep ;-) ........... "Around 48.9 million doses of the AstraZeneca jab have been administered across the UK so far up to 1 September, according to official estimates – equivalent to almost 53 per cent of all jabs handed out in Britain. It is one of three Covid jabs currently being administered for first and second doses in Britain, alongside the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines." https://inews.co.uk/news/health/astrazeneca-vaccine-not-offered-booster-jab-rollout-1199287 Nope. From your link: "The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) recommended a “mix and match” approach to the booster rollout, with both the Pfizer and Moderna jabs to be given to all those eligible regardless of whether they received other vaccines including the AstraZeneca jab as one of their previous doses. Professor Wei Shen Lim, chair of Covid-19 Immunisation for the JCVI, said the committee selected the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines because they use mRNA technologies, which he claimed provided “a very good immune boost” in studies. There is understood to be more available scientific evidence about the long-term efficacy of mRNA jabs over other vaccines. The JCVI cited data from the Cov-Boost trial published last week by University Hospital Southampton, which indicated that the Pfizer vaccine is well-tolerated as a third dose among patients and provides a strong booster response." We were instructed to stop using AZ for either first, second or booster in the middle of September.y So where does it say AZ is no longer being used in the UK for first or second jabs? ;-) ......... Where does it say it is? You posted this as evidence that it is still used, it isn't. Prove me wrong. Still waiting for an answer. Or do we chalk this down as another thread where you have realised you are wrong and want to just slink off quietly? There are a lot of those on this forum. Care to guess why it is no longer being used? Or is that too painful for your fragile British ego? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-22 3:13 PM Barryd999 - 2021-11-22 2:24 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-22 2:05 PM colin - 2021-11-22 1:26 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-22 1:07 PM John52 - 2021-11-22 12:58 PM John52 - 2021-11-22 7:53 AM Why do you think their introducing a lock down suggests they are not managing it better than Johnson? Dave? Is it because you think the EU is like Johnson and wouldn't introduce a lock down until the situation is dire? Nope I think its because Boris opened us up early in the summer, as he knew we couldn't stop the Delta varient from spreading, so much better to allow it to do its worst in the summer months :-| ............ Where as in the EU they have let it run riot just in time for winter 8-) ............ Only it isn't panning out like that, UK cases are on the rise again after the half term lull. My area seems to have always led the way for rest of country, and the last week or so CV-19 infections and deaths have increased by worrying amounts, if this continues we will have a very bad winter even after killing thousands through summer and autumn. We're heading into winter, so cases were always going to rise :-| ....... The difference is that our vaccine take up has been superiour to the EU's despite what the forums EU lovers would have you believe ;-) ....... We're queing up for our boosters where many in the EU are still refusing even their first jab 8-) ......... Which is why the Fourth Reich are now donning their Jack Boots to make it compulsary, because Merkel & Macron F*cked up when they slagged off AZ *-) .......... Worra pair of Cretins :-| ......... Angela Merkal had the AZ Vaccine herself. She said "AstraZeneca is a reliable vaccine, effective and safe, approved by the European Medicine Agency and recommended in Germany up to the age of 65," she told the Frankfurter Allgemeine." https://www.dw.com/en/angelamerkel-gets-her-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-shot/a-57222191 Before that....... she said ........"Chancellor Angela Merkel has defended Germany's decision to advise against the use of AstraZeneca for under-60s in the country, saying findings could not be ignored.".......... and gave the antivaxxers Morons an excuse to refuse the vaccine *-) ......... https://www.thelocal.de/20210330/germany-cannot-ignore-astrazeneca-findings-says-merkel/ BTW she's 67 so has ignored her own advice (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Thats the difference though between a proper Premier who puts her people and country first before their own popularity (Johnson) and follows the science. They were right to be cautious at the time but once approved she was happy to take it and made sure people knew she had. Johnson has not followed the science or advice from day one yet they have the audacity to say they have! I hope I am wrong but I have a strong suspicion this thread will come back and haunt you over the next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Barryd999 - 2021-11-22 5:05 PM I hope I am wrong but I have a strong suspicion this thread will come back and haunt you over the next few months. Either that or he'll go back to cartoons and shouty insults. :-S As far as I can see the only thing we got right was the vaccine programme because Johnson had nothing to do with it. There was only one viable supplier of vaccine. So the Tories couldn't take bribes from chancers to push their useless overpriced crap into their VIP lane, ahead of proper suppliers. As they have with PPE, Test & Trace, and everything else :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I for one hope he's right ;-) ........... "Britain will be 'first country in world' to beat Covid pandemic with jabs, predicts Nadhim Zahawi: Experts say Freedom Day 'frontloaded' infections now being suffered by rest of Europe" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10229213/Experts-tell-Brits-order-turkey-infections-summer-cases-low.html Although its clear from the Squads posts above that they are hoping he's wrong 8-) .......... Fancy being so consumed by hate that you'd wish ill on your own country *-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Looks like the Daily Mail is back to normal now the editor has got the sack for telling the truth and Paul Dacre is back :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 On Monday, the news of his return was greeted with surprise among staff at the company’s titles. One reading was that the tenure of Greig – a remain-backing former editor of Tatler and friend of David Cameron – was an experiment to detoxify the Mail image, which the company had now decided to abandon. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/nov/22/paul-dacre-appointed-editor-in-chief-of-daily-mail-parent-company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-23 8:18 AM Fancy being so consumed by hate that you'd wish ill on your own country *-) ......... I agree entirely, this is the finest country in the world, and one I wholeheartedly back. Why people back Boris 'the butcher' Kemal who wished to see "The bodies piled up" is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 colin - 2021-11-23 9:28 AM pelmetman - 2021-11-23 8:18 AM Fancy being so consumed by hate that you'd wish ill on your own country *-) ......... I agree entirely, this is the finest country in the world, and one I wholeheartedly back. Why people back Boris 'the butcher' Kemal who wished to see "The bodies piled up" is beyond me. It seems that Dave believes than anyone who doesn't like Johnson, doesn't like Britain. If Johnson sees Dave as a typical voter, you can see why Johnson regards the electorate as so gullible i ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-23 8:18 AM I for one hope he's right ;-) ........... "Britain will be 'first country in world' to beat Covid pandemic with jabs, predicts Nadhim Zahawi: Experts say Freedom Day 'frontloaded' infections now being suffered by rest of Europe" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10229213/Experts-tell-Brits-order-turkey-infections-summer-cases-low.html Although its clear from the Squads posts above that they are hoping he's wrong 8-) .......... Fancy being so consumed by hate that you'd wish ill on your own country *-) ......... It was you being consumed by hate of all things EU and funny foreigners that delivered Boris the Butcher to number 10. Zahawi might be right because they already wiped out all the old and vulnerable with their abject failure to handle the pandemic. Everyone is either dead or immune now from catching it because of the vaccines the wonderful NHS delivered or because they have already had it. Hopefully this winter its not "our turn" but cases are still rising and currently we are about middle in the percentage of fully vaccinated people in Europe. Brave or more likely stupid populist words from Zahawi but lets hope he is right. I suppose a broken clock is right twice a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 colin - 2021-11-23 9:28 AM pelmetman - 2021-11-23 8:18 AM Fancy being so consumed by hate that you'd wish ill on your own country *-) ......... I agree entirely, this is the finest country in the world, and one I wholeheartedly back. Why people back Boris 'the butcher' Kemal who wished to see "The bodies piled up" is beyond me. So you should ;-) ............ Seeing as the EU has far more efficent butchers than Boris :-| ......... The PM's of Belgium, Italy and Poland to name just a few of the 30 countries who's COVID death rate is higher than ours 8-) ......... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-23 1:26 PM colin - 2021-11-23 9:28 AM pelmetman - 2021-11-23 8:18 AM Fancy being so consumed by hate that you'd wish ill on your own country *-) ......... I agree entirely, this is the finest country in the world, and one I wholeheartedly back. Why people back Boris 'the butcher' Kemal who wished to see "The bodies piled up" is beyond me. So you should ;-) ............ Seeing as the EU has far more efficent butchers than Boris :-| ......... The PM's of Belgium, Italy and Poland to name just a few of the 30 countries who's COVID death rate is higher than ours 8-) ......... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ You think thats something to be proud of? We are an island nation and we had a head start when Covid hit yet we for much of 2020 were the worst hit country in the World, not just Europe. Poor Italy were hit first and were screaming at Johnson to do something but he went out and bragged about shaking hands in a Covid hit hospital instead and then nearly died of Covid himself. Some leader eh? If I were a Johnson supporter I think I would steer clear of banging on about how great he has been at handling the pandemic. It would be a bit like trying to promote Eddie the Eagle Edwards as the greatest Ski Jumper that ever lived. Mind you I suppose you are a bit stuck of stuff to sing his praises about. Everything he has done since he got into power has gone to rat sh1t. Name one thing he has done that has benefited the country in any way at all or that we all deem a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 There Dave goes again boasting about being one of the worst performing countries in the world, that's the trouble with lefties always trying to drag us down to the bottom. We are a proud nation we should have beaten this pandemic, not been beaten down by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Instead of this one-upmanship with Europe, perhaps it might be nice if Pelmethead actually explained what he felt was acceptable in terms of "living with the virus"? If its 40,000 odd confirmed cases, 1,000 hospitalisations and hundreds of deaths every day, then I'll pass, thanks. And that's before we consider the long-term damage of long covid - particularly in children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 malc d - 2021-11-23 9:41 AM colin - 2021-11-23 9:28 AM pelmetman - 2021-11-23 8:18 AM Fancy being so consumed by hate that you'd wish ill on your own country *-) ......... I agree entirely, this is the finest country in the world, and one I wholeheartedly back. Why people back Boris 'the butcher' Kemal who wished to see "The bodies piled up" is beyond me. It seems that Dave believes that anyone who doesn't like Johnson, doesn't like Britain. If Johnson sees Dave as a typical voter, you can see why Johnson regards the electorate as so gullible i ;-) (lol)(lol)(lol)(lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-23 1:26 PM 1 Seeing as the EU has far more efficent butchers than Boris :-| ......... 2 The PM's of Belgium, Italy and Poland to name just a few of the 30 countries who's COVID death rate is higher than ours 8-) ......... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ 1 No it doesn't, because, for the umpteenth time, the EU doesn't do healthcare. The individual states run, and must answer for, their own healthcare systems. 2 Not sure why you've picked out Belgium (14th), Italy (15th) and Poland (17th). By far the highest death rate is poor old Bulgaria, with 4,001 deaths per 1M population. There are 47 countries with published death rates listed, UK is 19th worst, with 2,105 deaths per 1M population, beaten by 28 other countries, the lowest of which is Iceland, with only 99 deaths per 1M pop. I can't understand why you're so jubilant about us coming in below the mean (Sweden has that honour.) If you want to crow about success, we need to be in the upper quartile, which seems to mean somewhere between Malta and Iceland. But we're not, are we? So what's so good? :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Brian Kirby - 2021-11-23 5:36 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-23 1:26 PM 1 Seeing as the EU has far more efficent butchers than Boris :-| ......... 2 The PM's of Belgium, Italy and Poland to name just a few of the 30 countries who's COVID death rate is higher than ours 8-) ......... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I can't understand why you're so jubilant about us coming in below the mid point (Sweden has that honour.) If you want to crow about success, we need to be in the upper quartile, which seems to mean somewhere between Malta and Iceland. But we're not, are we? So what's so good? :-S I think part of our success is due to the fact that we have the NHS, we are also an island, and Boris is controlling our borders. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 malc d - 2021-11-23 5:50 PM Brian Kirby - 2021-11-23 5:36 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-23 1:26 PM 1 Seeing as the EU has far more efficent butchers than Boris :-| ......... 2 The PM's of Belgium, Italy and Poland to name just a few of the 30 countries who's COVID death rate is higher than ours 8-) ......... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I can't understand why you're so jubilant about us coming in below the mid point (Sweden has that honour.) If you want to crow about success, we need to be in the upper quartile, which seems to mean somewhere between Malta and Iceland. But we're not, are we? So what's so good? :-S I think part of our success is due to the fact that we have the NHS, we are also an island, and Boris is controlling our borders. ;-) I think part of the reason the Squad is so annoyed is because they are losing yet another reason to bash Boris ;-) ........ Now all they've got is PeppapigGate (lol) (lol) (lol) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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