michele Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Donna, some people are so up their own A****se that they can not see the light for the trees ....fair point I wonder how many will say oh I'd better give that up I wonder how many would like to feel the leper then ? Shoe on the other foot springs to mind :D Me just chilling having a FAG ! Puff puff ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Chapman Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 donna miller - 2007-06-12 4:29 PM God help us when the eco soldiers start campaigning to ban diesel engines then. How many on here will say "well yes my motorhome is ruining the enjoyment and health of all the pedestrians who have to breathe in my exhaust smoke" so I'd better stop using it . Hello Donna, Start Campaigning? Thought they already had, headed by that nice fellow Ken Livingstone and his wonderful Congestion Charge. Not just diesels though. Perhaps Frank isn't such a bad chap after all. (lol) (lol) (lol) Regards, Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Yes, I do smoke. I do enjoy a peaceful pipefull while I'm in the pub or, in the room at home that I use as an office. I can agree completely with those who wish to be in a smoke free environment. Ergo, I will obey the law and on the 1st July I will comply willingly. If I want to light up, I will go outside. No problem at all. What comes next though? When the smokers have been extricated from public places, who will be picked on then? The drinker perhaps? Will the next move from our over PC government be to ban drinking? They're already trying to stop us using motor vehicles by higher taxation on fuel and vehicle licensing. They're already making us put certain types of rubbish into certain types of bins. It seems to me that the movement towards making our country, or even planet 'greener' will only lead to a total erosion of any sort of freedom. Saying what you think in public is now censored. In the workplace, any form of disagreement with colleagues can lead to disciplinary action. So, where is the freedom that we all think we have? The words wedges, thin and end of spring to mind. Let's just roll over now and accept what's being thrown at us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Vic - 2007-06-12 11:43 PM Let's just roll over now and accept what's being thrown at us. No, let's never, ever, do that! Instead, let's just recognise that our freedoms all depend upon us using them reasonably and wisely. That means, I think, not exercising our individual freedom to deliberately disadvantage, disturb, or dismay others. If we do that sensibly, we shall retain our cherished freedoms, and be able to defend them against any who want to diminish them, and we shall retain the priceless freedom to be outrageous and even occasionally to give offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donna miller Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 michele - 2007-06-12 4:39 PM :D Me just chilling having a FAG ! Puff puff ;-) We just got back from Jamaica on monday, went up to see Bob Marleys tomb, had a" fag" up there............. now, THAT WAS CHILLIN' :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 your jammin girl ....good for you hope it had a bit of wacky backy in it ! LOL :D : :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colleen Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Hi Michele fellow smoker here, Colleen, enjoying all the banter re smoking. we really are getting a hard time. when we bought our motorhome, the salesman noticed that both my husband and I smoked and he said to us - by the way, a bit of advice, dont smoke in your new motorhome because it will affect the trade in price. I thought he was joking (as he was a smoker himself) but he said we could lose as much as £3,000 on the trade in if it reeked of tobacco. that being said, on chilly nights, we have the odd sneaky cig with the windows opened. PS>. please can you tell me what LOL stands for?. I am a member of another forum and it is quite widely used, but i never did figure out what it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza454 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Mel B - 2007-06-12 2:56 PM I see you are being as "self righteous" as ever then Frank, wouldn't have it any other way. ;-) And as for winding you up ... not intentional, try having a ciggy .. it'll calm your nerves I understand. (lol) That's asking a heck of a lot of a few ciggys, I don't know any brand that would calm Frank down, probably a couple of litres of Glenmorangie would stand some chance. But, at the end of the day, do we want a "calm" Frank? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 No leave Frank alone !!!!!!!! LOL laugh out loud and ROTF roll on the floor mine will read two smokers loads of SEX 2 dogs loada kids and a bloody good time had by all :D :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donna miller Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 michele - 2007-06-13 2:57 PM your jammin girl ....good for you hope it had a bit of wacky backy in it ! LOL :D : :D :D Yeah Mon, we iyrie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Me's Iyrie all't time mon just chillin with the pill in! :D nobody takes me jam :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenewellhome Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 But you definitely won't be allowed to smoke any of that down your local! D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 donna miller - 2007-06-12 4:29 PM God help us when the eco soldiers start campaigning to ban diesel engines then. How many on here will say "well yes my motorhome is ruining the enjoyment and health of all the pedestrians who have to breathe in my exhaust smoke" so I'd better stop using it . My thoughts exactly. Well said Donna, and what about all the people living beneath Heathrows take off path then. Why should they be subjected to all the soot exhausted by a 747 on take off, just because some thoughtless people want to go and lie in the sun. so it goes on ad infinitum. Where does one draw the line as far as considering other peoples health? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Mel B - 2007-06-12 2:56 PM I see you are being as "self righteous" as ever then Frank, wouldn't have it any other way. ;-) And as for winding you up ... not intentional, try having a ciggy .. it'll calm your nerves I understand. (lol)Not self rightous Toots. Just standing up for individual rights that are rapidly being erroded by the Nanny State of Tony B.liar. >:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethleff Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Just had a bit of luck, found three packets of Old Holborn behind a cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 dethleff - 2007-06-21 6:19 PM Just had a bit of luck, found three packets of Old Holborn behind a cupboard.Great..........Just put a lettuce leaf in with thr Baccy and it will be smokable in no time. What a piece of luck eh. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancer Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Health & safety point here.Smoking makes you go brown and wrinkled.Ladies, it starts around the nipples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Dancer - 2007-06-21 10:40 PMHealth & safety point here.Smoking makes you go brown and wrinkled.Ladies, it starts around the nipples.Never seen a smoking nipple yet. But have smoked a few myself. :D (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwhites1 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 on july 1 I will stop drinking because only place I drink is pub will not stop me smoking. And for damaging in your health here are some statistics from my family mother died 40 smoker death not related to smoking father died 45 non smoker death not related to smoking grandfather1 died 76 pipe smoker death not related to smoking grandfather2 67 smoker poss related to smoking stroke grandmother1 95 non smoker not related smoking grandmother2 91 non smoker not related smoking grandmother 1&2 were in a smoking enviroment all their married lives and possibly before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenewellhome Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Thanks Rwhites, that's one less smoker I'll encounter in the pub after July 1st. ;-) D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 rwhites1 - 2007-06-22 1:15 AM on july 1 I will stop drinking because only place I drink is pub will not stop me smoking. And for damaging in your health here are some statistics from my family mother died 40 smoker death not related to smoking father died 45 non smoker death not related to smoking grandfather1 died 76 pipe smoker death not related to smoking grandfather2 67 smoker poss related to smoking stroke grandmother1 95 non smoker not related smoking grandmother2 91 non smoker not related smoking grandmother 1&2 were in a smoking enviroment all their married lives and possibly before A man fell from the top of the Empire State Building. As he passed each floor he was heard to say "So far so good". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howie Posted June 22, 2007 Author Share Posted June 22, 2007 Always the exception to the rule Bob, but no one can really dispute the harm smoking does surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakaleg Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 when i was having phisio after a rta, the subject come up for whatether reason, and i was told that most smokers don't die from smoking. the lucky ones lose a leg due to bad circulation, the not so lucky spend the last years of their lives dependant on oxgen cyilinders. also if you need an operation, the anastethic is a lot more dangerous. (excuse the spelling) pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howie Posted June 22, 2007 Author Share Posted June 22, 2007 Putting aside the revenue raised can anybody really justify why such a well regognised killer is still offered for sale to the public. Think of all the health and safety regulations introduced the last few years such as rear seat belts and hard hats at all times and you are left with only one conclusion. Profit driven hypocrosy pure and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Newell Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Ah yes but with such a large proportion of the populace addicted to the dreaded weed would you like to be the Prime Minister who made it illegal overnight? It would make for a very unpopular government equally as quick and wouldn't actually stop the smokers, they'd go "underground" just like the drug dealers. Besides which smoking is not just confined to this country its a world wide habit. How would you cope with foreign visitors lighting up a ciggy in the high street? D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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