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userarmstrongpiper
Posted: 26 March 2020 10:14 AM
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Anyone doing SORN until this crisis is over? I have never used the facility before - is it easy and simple to retax? Is the system totally computerised or is Swansea Office necessary to complete the formalities? Any helpful comments welcomed.

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usercolin
Posted: 26 March 2020 10:22 AM
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I have several vehicles on SORN, it has been online for years, and easy to do.
userjohnfromnorfolk
Posted: 26 March 2020 10:30 AM
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Sorned my motorhome . Easy online.
userBillggski
Posted: 26 March 2020 11:51 AM
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I'm considering it for the motorhome. But as both our cars together come to £40 a year it seems pointless for them. I may use the motorhome for shopping to keep it turned over though.
userConrad
Posted: 26 March 2020 12:46 PM
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If you're going to do it, need to do asap. They give you refund on complete months left, so hurry up and you'll get April onwards refund.
DVLA site is great. almost a pleasure to use, especially when you're getting £ back. You'll need your registration document (V5) handy as well as registration plate number.
userbreakaleg
Posted: 26 March 2020 2:08 PM
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Love to do that but unfortunatly I don't have a drive to park on.
Good news yesterday, MOT'S can now be deferred by six months
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userSydney1
Posted: 26 March 2020 7:14 PM
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Just be careful as I understand some (maybe all) insurance companies will reduce insurance cover from fully comprehensive to TPF&T
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Posted: 26 March 2020 7:23 PM
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breakaleg - 2020-03-26 2:08 PM

Good news yesterday, MOT'S can now be deferred by six months
Pete



But only if they are due ON or AFTER March 30th.

userGman
Posted: 26 March 2020 9:39 PM
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Sydney1 - 2020-03-26 7:14 PM

Just be careful as I understand some (maybe all) insurance companies will reduce insurance cover from fully comprehensive to TPF&T


Tried to get lay up policy for SORN in my drive way, they don't do one, best quote was £200.91 basic
fully comp only. TPF&T £348.01 insurance companies don't like TPF&T. When our son passed his test
in 2004, his modified classic Mini was £770.00 FC, TPF&T was £3500.00 !!!! they told us it was to
discourage people using it, one accident can mean younger drivers may be paying compo for the rest
of thier life. (Also can you afford to loose it to a pikey by not insuring it?.) I just reduced my annual milage to the minimum, and the M/H is staying the drive for now. Your'e saving money by staying home anyway, so pay up, you know it make's sense.

Stay safe and well.

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userDerek Uzzell
Posted: 27 March 2020 7:20 AM
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Coronavirus/motorhome-SORN advice from Comfort Insurance here:

https://www.comfort-insurance.co.uk/blog/coronavirus-do-i-need-insurance-if-i-sorn-my-motorhome-or-campervan
userMickt
Posted: 28 March 2020 3:09 PM
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Just tried to sorn my online, went and put the numbers in and they tell me vehicle not recognised. What I am I doing wrong, MH was taxed full year in December last and had a MOT 3 weeks ago

Edited by Mickt 2020-03-28 3:09 PM
userBasil
Posted: 28 March 2020 3:35 PM
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I was to quick to re-tax the Motorhome so have a new year starting from April first, does anyone know if I can SORN on the last day of this month and get a complete year refunded?

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useraandy
Posted: 28 March 2020 4:20 PM
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That's certainly how I read the notes on the website when I did mine earlier. You should be refunded all whole months outstanding.
userBasil
Posted: 28 March 2020 4:57 PM
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Thanks for your response, must admit that is how I read it but I wondered if renewing and SORNING for the same date might confuse the 'sytem' and result in a protracted 'experience' with the DVLA or whatever they call themselves now.
Guess I will have to try it and see what happens!

Thanks again.

Basil
userColinM50
Posted: 28 March 2020 5:17 PM
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Good idea to SORN the m/h. Unlikely to use mine at least till June, poss July so saving 1/4 of a year and using the .gov website couldn't have been easier. I reckon it took 2 minutes and a refund should be with me in days. All you need is your V5, or log book, A doddle

So if you're not going to use yours in April, might as well save the money
userstevec176
Posted: 28 March 2020 5:40 PM
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Mickt,
Are you using the numbers from your V5 or retax form because the numbers are different. If you use the V11, reminder it 16 digits and if you use the V5 its only 11.
The link to SORN is https://www.gov.uk/make-a-sorn
userMickt
Posted: 28 March 2020 7:48 PM
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Yes reading numbers ok, still no good
userMatrix Meanderer
Posted: 28 March 2020 10:18 PM
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Successfully went through the quick DVLA SORN process yesterday no problems, five minutes max.

Looking forward to receiving the refund but noticed on the last screen that my refund "should be received in four to six weeks"

Is this how long we have to wait - really??
What is DVLA using a Sinclair ZX Spectrum !

Seriously though, how long does the refund take?
userKeithl
Posted: 28 March 2020 10:32 PM
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Mick,

I was going to suggest checking the expiry date of your Tax and MOT but the DVLA website is currently down for maintenance so this could possibly be your problem.

https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ServiceUnavailable?locale=en

Keith.
userMatrix Meanderer
Posted: 28 March 2020 10:53 PM
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Keithl - 2020-03-28 10:32 PM

Mick,

I was going to suggest checking the expiry date of your Tax and MOT but the DVLA website is currently down for maintenance so this could possibly be your problem.

https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ServiceUnavailable?locale=en

Keith.


Don't think so. I only renewed my vehicle tax on 1st March and there's no MOT as its an 18 plate.

Maybe they're rebooting the ZX Spectrum
userstevec176
Posted: 28 March 2020 11:02 PM
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I did mine over the phone, 0300 123 4321, it's an automated system, quick and easy.

Edited by stevec176 2020-03-28 11:04 PM
userDerek Uzzell
Posted: 29 March 2020 9:10 AM
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Mickt - 2020-03-28 7:48 PM

Yes reading numbers ok, still no good


Are you using the OFFICIAL gov.uk website to register SORN?

https://www.gov.uk/make-a-sorn

(There is also an ‘unofficial’ website that might well not recognise your motorhome’s registration number.)

Confirming VED (road tax) details can be done here

https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-tax

and MOT-test checks can be made here

https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-status

https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history

The VED and MOT-test links all worked properly for me.

The SORN application link also worked OK when I entered the 11-digit number from my Rapido’s V5C and its registration number, though (as I did not attempt to actually SORN my motorhome) I do not know if there might have been a problem further down the line.

This link

https://www.gov.uk/sorn-statutory-off-road-notification

advises

After you make a SORN

You’ll automatically get a vehicle tax refund for any full remaining months. You’ll get this within 6 weeks of making a SORN.


“Within 6 weeks” doesn’t mean it will take that long for the refund cheque to arrive (though the delay might be longer than usual currently due to lots of motorists deciding to SORN) but it should discourage people from contacting the DVLA the day after submitting a SORN application and demanding where the refund is!

This DVLA coronavirus update

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/dvla-coronavirus-covid-19-update

also suggests that SORN refund cheques might take a while to arrive.

When the DVLA was being set up in Swansea in the early 80s I was working at GCHQ, and several IT specialists who had come to Cheltenham from Wales transferred to the DVLA to help create their computer systems and databases. There’s some interesting DVLA-related stuff on Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_and_Vehicle_Licensing_Agency

though it doesn’t reveal if Spectrum computers form the mainstay of their systems.
userStuartO
Posted: 29 March 2020 9:14 AM
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Derek Uzzell - 2020-03-29 9:10 AM  .....  in the early 80s I was working at GCHQ


Ah, that explains a few things - Derek was a Spy!
userDen
Posted: 29 March 2020 9:58 AM
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I sorn my minibus and thought I was on the Gov site until it asked for money.
So easy to do and looked the same as the Gov site
Ended that instantly and clicked on the correct site and it took seconds.
1st time ive had to use the system.
Motorhome is next.
I like many had so many plans for this year.

Take care everyone
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Posted: 29 March 2020 11:30 AM
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I was surprised to find DVLA still issuing cheques, as I had assumed they would have kept up with the times and issued refunds by bank transfer. It doesn't really matter how long the refund cheque takes, as it will be some time before any of us can go to the bank to pay it in.
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Posted: 29 March 2020 11:38 AM
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aandy - 2020-03-29 11:30 AM

I was surprised to find DVLA still issuing cheques, as I had assumed they would have kept up with the times and issued refunds by bank transfer. It doesn't really matter how long the refund cheque takes, as it will be some time before any of us can go to the bank to pay it in.


My wife sold her car at the start of March and automatically received a cheque from DVLA three days later. I then paid it into our bank account using the Banks app and camera on my phone and it was credited to our account the next working day. So from selling the car we had the money in our account within seven days. Obviously things may be slightly slower now but I would still hope a lot quicker then the six weeks they say as a max.

Keith.
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Posted: 29 March 2020 12:24 PM
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Keithl - 2020-03-29 11:38 AM

aandy - 2020-03-29 11:30 AM

I was surprised to find DVLA still issuing cheques, as I had assumed they would have kept up with the times and issued refunds by bank transfer. It doesn't really matter how long the refund cheque takes, as it will be some time before any of us can go to the bank to pay it in.


My wife sold her car at the start of March and automatically received a cheque from DVLA three days later. I then paid it into our bank account using the Banks app and camera on my phone and it was credited to our account the next working day. So from selling the car we had the money in our account within seven days. Obviously things may be slightly slower now but I would still hope a lot quicker then the six weeks they say as a max.

Keith.


Unfortunately I bank with Santander and they don't have that facility yet (they do in the USA). So if I cannot get to an branch machine to deposit the cheque, I have to send it by post or hand it over at a Post Office counter in a special mailing envelope - which I don't yet have

Maybe by the time I receive the cheque I'll also have the cheque deposit envelopes.
The 11 month refund will be worth the wait!
Fortunately we live in a hamlet but do have a post box within half a mile and I have stamps

Edited by Matrix Meanderer 2020-03-29 12:26 PM
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Posted: 29 March 2020 12:43 PM
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I'd never heard of that facility, Keith, when the cheque arrives I'll give it a try.
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Posted: 29 March 2020 12:45 PM
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SORNed my M/H yesterday and now realise I should have checked the tyres were pumped up correctly (TPMS shows rears need topping up) so want to drive to local garage (1/2 mile) to check before locking iot away for who knows how long.

Can I legally do that?

I know the refund is for full months only, so is my SORN from yesterday or 31 March
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Posted: 29 March 2020 12:49 PM
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ColinM50 - 2020-03-29 12:45 PM

SORNed my M/H yesterday and now realise I should have checked the tyres were pumped up correctly (TPMS shows rears need topping up) so want to drive to local garage (1/2 mile) to check before locking iot away for who knows how long.

Can I legally do that?


Check DVLA for tax status and if yes then you're OK, if no then you cannot.

https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-tax
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