Barryd999 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-11-15 11:36 PM pelmetman - 2019-11-15 8:19 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-15 8:07 PM pelmetman - 2019-11-15 6:40 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-11-15 6:35 PM pelmetman - 2019-11-15 6:31 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-11-15 4:43 PM I don't think there's a cat in hell's chance of Sussex, or any other county, becoming a county where English is a minority language. You are being afflicted by xenophobic hysteria! :-D When was the last time you went shopping in Boston market Brian? ;-) ........ Or in certain areas of London :-| ....... Your liberal mind is refusing to accept reality >:-) ...... For both you and Tweetie Pie, since when has Boston been a county? Sussex you said. Do you not read what you write, or don't you understand the difference between a county and a town? Gawd, this does get difficult! :-| Gawd you are getting petty Brian *-) ........ Perhaps you need to get into your POSH camper and get out and about in those area's of the UK that you don't think exist ;-) ........ Hint....... you may need to upgrade your camper security >:-) ....... Brian went to Bradford once , well to be fair it was Milton Keynes and he once saw an Asian fella ... On Eastenders I doubt Brian's Liberal East Sussex idel has suffered much from mass migration *-) ....... Still waiting for those "76 million Turks" to arrive and "Turkey to join EU" your lot LIED about. *-) https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-boris-johnson-falsely-claims-he-didnt-say-anything-about-turkey-in-the-referendum-campaign So which is the real Johnson? The anti immigration, anti Turkey Johnson who tried to whip up hysteria and fear in the referendum campaign that Turkey was joining the EU or the very liberal one before the referendum who made this very pro Turkey and pro Muslim video arguing FOR Turkey joining the EU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-11-16 10:19 AM So which is the real Johnson? The real Johnson is the only Prime Minister we have ever had who checks in the mirror to make sure he is looking scruffy before he goes out every day. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 malc d - 2019-11-16 10:36 AM Barryd999 - 2019-11-16 10:19 AM So which is the real Johnson? The real Johnson is the only Prime Minister we have ever had who checks in the mirror to make sure he is looking scruffy before he goes out every day. ;-) You obviously never saw Michael Foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-11-15 8:19 PM...……………...I doubt Brian's Liberal East Sussex idel has suffered much from mass migration *-) ........ Forgive my ignorance, but what the hell is an "idel"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-11-16 10:19 A So which is the real Johnson? The one who looks which way the mob is running, then runs in the same direction shouting 'follow me' :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-11-15 6:40 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-11-15 6:35 PM pelmetman - 2019-11-15 6:31 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-11-15 4:43 PM I don't think there's a cat in hell's chance of Sussex, or any other county, becoming a county where English is a minority language. You are being afflicted by xenophobic hysteria! :-D 1 When was the last time you went shopping in Boston market Brian? ;-) ........ Or in certain areas of London :-| ....... 2 Your liberal mind is refusing to accept reality >:-) ...... For both you and Tweetie Pie, since when has Boston been a county? Sussex you said. Do you not read what you write, or don't you understand the difference between a county and a town? Gawd, this does get difficult! :-| Gawd you are getting petty Brian *-) ........ Perhaps you need to get into your POSH camper and get out and about in those area's of the UK that you don't think exist ;-) ........ Hint....... you may need to upgrade your camper security >:-) ....... 1 Dave, when you post, you set the rules for the reply. You referred to Sussex, (population 1.6 million) which is an English county. In your second try you cited instead Boston, (population 35,000) which is an English town. Both may seem the same to you, but the difference is significant, and drawing your attention to so significant a factual error is hardly petty. If you want replies to your points, first get your facts straight! :-| But, just for you, let's pretend that Boston is a county. The "county" of Boston is 85% UK born, with 11% eastern European, and the remainder from elsewhere. It's main economic activity is agriculture and associated businesses. I've explained why it has a relatively large eastern European population, which is the large agricultural sector, and the preference of local agricultural businesses for migrant labour over UK labour. Without the migrants, the agricultural sector would suffer. The port of Boston was briefly a part of the Hanseatic league, and so was wealthy - until the locals fell out with the Hansards! It is one of the UK towns with the highest proportion of eastern European migrants, but nevertheless has lower than the national average unemployment. It has failed to integrate its migrants, and is ranked the least integrated town in England. Perhaps consequently, it is one of, if not the, most Brexit minded towns in England. What all this says is that Boston is an unhappy town, but that it is not typical of the UK, or England. It has had too many migrants in too short a period of time for local people to assimilate them. However, the driver for that immigration is the local agricultural businesses, in which the great majority of the migrants work. Looking to Brexit to resolve this completely misses the cause, which is the labour requirements of the local business interests. It is unlikely in the extreme that Brexit will solve the problem, because if agriculture is to survive locally it will continue to need the labour so, if it cannot get it from within the EU, it will get it, one way or another, from further afield. OTOH, if the supply of labour is not satisfied the agriculture will go elsewhere (possibly abroad, leading to increased imports), and the local economy will diminish, with a falling standard of living for Bostonians. So, a bit of a Catch 22. This is a genuine hard luck story, and it is difficult to see any short term solution short of working harder to foster integration while ejecting those migrants who cause problems. But overall, it seems that the problem is local to Boston, and that Brexit will do nothing to curs it - if it does not, actually, make it worse. So, what then? Oh yes, and we are last in Boston on 9 June 2007 - but were weren't shopping, just looking around for a few hours! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I've linked this before but here is a view from someone who actually lived in Boston for almost nine years. https://www.ilivehere.co.uk/boston-2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-11-16 10:44 AM malc d - 2019-11-16 10:36 AM Barryd999 - 2019-11-16 10:19 AM So which is the real Johnson? The real Johnson is the only Prime Minister we have ever had who checks in the mirror to make sure he is looking scruffy before he goes out every day. ;-) You obviously never saw Michael Foot. Over what period was he Prime Minister ? :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 He was a nearly man,we had a close call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Mind you if it’s just hairstyle ,Pit the Younger takes a lot of beating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-11-16 3:35 PM He was a nearly man,we had a close call. One thing ( among many ) that people didn't like about Michael Foot was his appearance, he would never have been elected on that basis alone. It doesn't seem to make any difference with Johnson, who looks quite absurd among other world leaders. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Well with luck he won’t be around for long ...however I’m not keen on the alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-11-16 5:41 PM Well with luck he won’t be around for long ...however I’m not keen on the alternatives. I could probably put up with Johnson if he hadn't kicked all the moderates out of the party - he's hanging on to a most unattractive bunch in his government. Agreed - No inspiring alternatives either. We're doomed to more years of juvenile squabbling in Parliament I'm afraid. :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 malc d - 2019-11-16 8:09 PM jumpstart - 2019-11-16 5:41 PM Well with luck he won’t be around for long ...however I’m not keen on the alternatives. I could probably put up with Johnson if he hadn't kicked all the moderates out of the party - he's hanging on to a most unattractive bunch in his government. Agreed - No inspiring alternatives either. We're doomed to more years of juvenile squabbling in Parliament I'm afraid. :'( It will be funny if he wins the election than reverts to "Liberal Johnson" invites them all back and decides to cancel Brexit. I would pay good money to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 See they’ve promised to publish after the election, so you lot can stop worrying now ,have a cup of tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-11-17 10:19 AM See they’ve promised to publish after the election, so you lot can stop worrying now ,have a cup of tea. I have stopped watching most ' political TV ' at the moment - I just can't face all the competing cr*p. Have any of them admitted yet that they will be scrapping their manifestos after the election ? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 They are called “ election promises”...that they don’t have to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-11-17 11:41 AM They are called “ election promises”...that they don’t have to keep. Well, you know the line. "Oh yes, we'd have loved to have been able to do all those things, but someone who wasn't us has messed things up so badly in the meantime it's now impossible". Choose colour of rosette to suit preference! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-11-17 10:19 AM See they’ve promised to publish after the election, so you lot can stop worrying now ,have a cup of tea. You seem to miss the point J/start as thats precisely why people are angry. It should be published before the GE......not after! It's obviously damaging to Johnson which is why he won't release it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Anyway Russian funding is just “ foreign aid”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Why are the wet whinger hate squad not screaming for the report by the Equality and Human Rights Commission into institutional antisemitism in The Labour Party to be released before the election ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-11-17 8:23 PM Why are the wet whinger hate squad not screaming for the report by the Equality and Human Rights Commission into institutional antisemitism in The Labour Party to be released before the election ??? Nope its more hypocrisy by the look of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-11-18 6:20 AM Birdbrain - 2019-11-17 8:23 PM Why are the wet whinger hate squad not screaming for the report by the Equality and Human Rights Commission into institutional antisemitism in The Labour Party to be released before the election ??? Nope its more hypocrisy by the look of it Didnt know there was one. Lets have both then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-11-18 9:13 AM Birdbrain - 2019-11-18 6:20 AM Birdbrain - 2019-11-17 8:23 PM Why are the wet whinger hate squad not screaming for the report by the Equality and Human Rights Commission into institutional antisemitism in The Labour Party to be released before the election ??? Nope its more hypocrisy by the look of it Didnt know there was one. Lets have both then. It's not been published yet as EHRC investigations are still ongoing.....unlike the report from Parliament’s Intelligence and Security Committee on foreign 'interference' in the referendum and elections which has been cleared by UK Intelligence for publication....but Johnson refuses to publish until after the GE. Labours inquiry is being conducted by an independent body so perhaps the "hate squad" forever screaming about them will start screaming as to why Johnson has gone back on his word to hold an independent inquiry into Islamophobia in the Tory party and instead holding a "general inquiry into prejudice"....in other words Tories 'investigating' the Tory party. Needless to say their silence is deafening. https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/boris-johnson/news/107875/boris-johnson-faces-backlash https://politicshome.com/news/uk/social-affairs/discrimination/news/107956/tories-failing-tackle-islamophobia-their-ranks https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/10/muslim-women-fear-safety-boris-johnson-scraps-islamophobia-inquiry-11075651/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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