Bulletguy Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 teflon2 - 2020-06-07 6:20 PM Bulletguy - 2020-06-06 6:52 PM Serfs were land tenants and couldn't be sold or bought where slaves were owned so could be bought and sold by anyone. The Scottish Highland clearances is a good example of serfdom. Wrong quote from Concise Oxford English dictionary. Serf person whose service is attached to the soil and transferred with it . Oppressed person, drudge (slave ) As such would be passed on with the land deeds also any issue ( children ) That's pretty much what i said. Land tenants (attached to the land) in that they were not owned where slaves were. A serf could only be sold or bought by sale or transfer of the land they tenanted....not the individual themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-06-07 8:13 PM Birdbrain - 2020-06-07 5:10 PM pelmetman - 2020-06-07 4:14 PM Bulletguy - 2020-06-06 4:29 PM White people were never colonised,,,,white people were never enslaved....white people were never lynched. So the Roman's, Viking's, Saxon's and Norman's just came for a holiday? *-) ........ Awkward ... https://www.theguardian.com/guardianweekly/story/0,12674,1171347,00.html ... Imagine being so bitter , twisted and full of hate you attempt to re-write history and ignore the suffering of millions just because they were white ... Lordy My , how very racist Good link Antony and most unusual for you to turn to the Guardian! You will note it states, "black Africans enslaved and shipped to the Americas over four centuries outnumbered Prof Davis's estimates of white European taken to Africa by 12-1". However it relates back to the 16th century and black slaves were still being traded in the US until the 13th Amendment was passed in 1864, over 30 years after it had been abolished in Europe. Despite the passing of the 13th Amendment the struggle to achieve full equality and guarantee the civil rights of all Americans would continued well into the 20th century due to Black Codes and 'Jim Crow laws', restrictive laws designed to limit the freedom of African Americans and ensure their availability as a cheap labour force after slavery was abolished. What can be more bitter, twisted and full of hate than segregation because of a persons skin colour? Any white Americans who railed against such bigoted racism were deemed 'subversives', 'political agitators', 'communists' etc, many later getting hauled in front of McCarthy on trumped up charges of treason. Take it thats the best you do for an apology for your untruths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-06-07 8:17 PM Bulletguy - 2020-06-07 8:13 PM Birdbrain - 2020-06-07 5:10 PM pelmetman - 2020-06-07 4:14 PM Bulletguy - 2020-06-06 4:29 PM White people were never colonised,,,,white people were never enslaved....white people were never lynched. So the Roman's, Viking's, Saxon's and Norman's just came for a holiday? *-) ........ Awkward ... https://www.theguardian.com/guardianweekly/story/0,12674,1171347,00.html ... Imagine being so bitter , twisted and full of hate you attempt to re-write history and ignore the suffering of millions just because they were white ... Lordy My , how very racist Good link Antony and most unusual for you to turn to the Guardian! You will note it states, "black Africans enslaved and shipped to the Americas over four centuries outnumbered Prof Davis's estimates of white European taken to Africa by 12-1". However it relates back to the 16th century and black slaves were still being traded in the US until the 13th Amendment was passed in 1864, over 30 years after it had been abolished in Europe. Despite the passing of the 13th Amendment the struggle to achieve full equality and guarantee the civil rights of all Americans would continued well into the 20th century due to Black Codes and 'Jim Crow laws', restrictive laws designed to limit the freedom of African Americans and ensure their availability as a cheap labour force after slavery was abolished. What can be more bitter, twisted and full of hate than segregation because of a persons skin colour? Any white Americans who railed against such bigoted racism were deemed 'subversives', 'political agitators', 'communists' etc, many later getting hauled in front of McCarthy on trumped up charges of treason. Take it thats the best you do for an apology for your untruths Should Bulletguy have changed the subject to exaggerated stories about bin bags and public bins like you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 John52 - 2020-06-08 6:41 AM Birdbrain - 2020-06-07 8:17 PM Bulletguy - 2020-06-07 8:13 PM Birdbrain - 2020-06-07 5:10 PM pelmetman - 2020-06-07 4:14 PM Bulletguy - 2020-06-06 4:29 PM White people were never colonised,,,,white people were never enslaved....white people were never lynched. So the Roman's, Viking's, Saxon's and Norman's just came for a holiday? *-) ........ Awkward ... https://www.theguardian.com/guardianweekly/story/0,12674,1171347,00.html ... Imagine being so bitter , twisted and full of hate you attempt to re-write history and ignore the suffering of millions just because they were white ... Lordy My , how very racist Good link Antony and most unusual for you to turn to the Guardian! You will note it states, "black Africans enslaved and shipped to the Americas over four centuries outnumbered Prof Davis's estimates of white European taken to Africa by 12-1". However it relates back to the 16th century and black slaves were still being traded in the US until the 13th Amendment was passed in 1864, over 30 years after it had been abolished in Europe. Despite the passing of the 13th Amendment the struggle to achieve full equality and guarantee the civil rights of all Americans would continued well into the 20th century due to Black Codes and 'Jim Crow laws', restrictive laws designed to limit the freedom of African Americans and ensure their availability as a cheap labour force after slavery was abolished. What can be more bitter, twisted and full of hate than segregation because of a persons skin colour? Any white Americans who railed against such bigoted racism were deemed 'subversives', 'political agitators', 'communists' etc, many later getting hauled in front of McCarthy on trumped up charges of treason. Take it thats the best you do for an apology for your untruths Should Bulletguy have changed the subject to exaggerated stories about bin bags and public bins like you do? No ... He'd already come up with "exaggerated stories" earlier in the thread by re-writing history ... Very "exaggerated" ... Try again hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 I guess todays protesters would say the racism against whites was in the past, but the racism against blacks is current. I don't know whether they are right. I hear the white police officer accused of murdering the black man has been suspended and charged with murder, so I don't know what more they want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-06-07 8:13 PM Birdbrain - 2020-06-07 5:10 PM pelmetman - 2020-06-07 4:14 PM Bulletguy - 2020-06-06 4:29 PM White people were never colonised,,,,white people were never enslaved....white people were never lynched. So the Roman's, Viking's, Saxon's and Norman's just came for a holiday? *-) ........ Awkward ... https://www.theguardian.com/guardianweekly/story/0,12674,1171347,00.html ... Imagine being so bitter , twisted and full of hate you attempt to re-write history and ignore the suffering of millions just because they were white ... Lordy My , how very racist Good link Antony and most unusual for you to turn to the Guardian! You will note it states, "black Africans enslaved and shipped to the Americas over four centuries outnumbered Prof Davis's estimates of white European taken to Africa by 12-1". However it relates back to the 16th century and black slaves were still being traded in the US until the 13th Amendment was passed in 1864, over 30 years after it had been abolished in Europe. Despite the passing of the 13th Amendment the struggle to achieve full equality and guarantee the civil rights of all Americans would continued well into the 20th century due to Black Codes and 'Jim Crow laws', restrictive laws designed to limit the freedom of African Americans and ensure their availability as a cheap labour force after slavery was abolished. What can be more bitter, twisted and full of hate than segregation because of a persons skin colour? Any white Americans who railed against such bigoted racism were deemed 'subversives', 'political agitators', 'communists' etc, many later getting hauled in front of McCarthy on trumped up charges of treason. So were you mistaken or did you deliberatly lie with this statement? *-) .......... "White people were never colonised,,,,white people were never enslaved....white people were never lynched." Just askin? ;-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 John52 - 2020-06-08 7:48 AM I guess todays protesters would say the racism against whites was in the past, but the racism against blacks is current. I don't know whether they are right. I hear the white police officer accused of murdering the black man has been suspended and charged with murder, so I don't know what more they want? If BAME peoples live matter.......Why are they more likely to be killed by a fellow BAME person *-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-06-08 8:11 AM Bulletguy - 2020-06-07 8:13 PM Good link Antony and most unusual for you to turn to the Guardian! You will note it states, "black Africans enslaved and shipped to the Americas over four centuries outnumbered Prof Davis's estimates of white European taken to Africa by 12-1". However it relates back to the 16th century and black slaves were still being traded in the US until the 13th Amendment was passed in 1864, over 30 years after it had been abolished in Europe. Despite the passing of the 13th Amendment the struggle to achieve full equality and guarantee the civil rights of all Americans would continued well into the 20th century due to Black Codes and 'Jim Crow laws', restrictive laws designed to limit the freedom of African Americans and ensure their availability as a cheap labour force after slavery was abolished. What can be more bitter, twisted and full of hate than segregation because of a persons skin colour? Any white Americans who railed against such bigoted racism were deemed 'subversives', 'political agitators', 'communists' etc, many later getting hauled in front of McCarthy on trumped up charges of treason. So were you mistaken or did you deliberatly lie with this statement? *-) .......... "White people were never colonised,,,,white people were never enslaved....white people were never lynched." Just askin? ;-) .......... Fortunately for you and your pal, the forum is not a court of law otherwise you pair would have been locked away long ago over lying and misleading 'the court'! Forums are places where people discuss as adults (generally) though some attract a certain juvenile element hence the reason neither of you pair can stay away. The Guardian link Antony posted was an interesting read and i stated as such even though it related to the 16th century and it was obvious neither of you ever bothered to read it. Black slaves were still being traded in the US until the 13th Amendment was passed in 1864, over 30 years after it had been abolished in Europe. UK abolished the slave trade over half a century before US got around to it which shows how backwards the US was. So whilst i accept some white people were enslaved (according to the Guardian link) none were colonised or lynched and you need to accept that, the same as you must now accept black African slaves outnumbered that of white by 12 - 1 (according to the Guardian link)......and neither of you appear to accept that just as you don't about Americas horrendous inhumane history of segregation. As i said in the post you quoted, what can be more bitter, twisted and full of hate than segregation because of a persons skin colour? That what was still going on in America as late as the 50s and even after the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964, took years to enforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-06-08 2:54 PM pelmetman - 2020-06-08 8:11 AM Bulletguy - 2020-06-07 8:13 PM Good link Antony and most unusual for you to turn to the Guardian! You will note it states, "black Africans enslaved and shipped to the Americas over four centuries outnumbered Prof Davis's estimates of white European taken to Africa by 12-1". However it relates back to the 16th century and black slaves were still being traded in the US until the 13th Amendment was passed in 1864, over 30 years after it had been abolished in Europe. Despite the passing of the 13th Amendment the struggle to achieve full equality and guarantee the civil rights of all Americans would continued well into the 20th century due to Black Codes and 'Jim Crow laws', restrictive laws designed to limit the freedom of African Americans and ensure their availability as a cheap labour force after slavery was abolished. What can be more bitter, twisted and full of hate than segregation because of a persons skin colour? Any white Americans who railed against such bigoted racism were deemed 'subversives', 'political agitators', 'communists' etc, many later getting hauled in front of McCarthy on trumped up charges of treason. So were you mistaken or did you deliberatly lie with this statement? *-) .......... "White people were never colonised,,,,white people were never enslaved....white people were never lynched." Just askin? ;-) .......... Fortunately for you and your pal, the forum is not a court of law otherwise you pair would have been locked away long ago over lying and misleading 'the court'! Forums are places where people discuss as adults (generally) though some attract a certain juvenile element hence the reason neither of you pair can stay away. The Guardian link Antony posted was an interesting read and i stated as such even though it related to the 16th century and it was obvious neither of you ever bothered to read it. Black slaves were still being traded in the US until the 13th Amendment was passed in 1864, over 30 years after it had been abolished in Europe. UK abolished the slave trade over half a century before US got around to it which shows how backwards the US was. So whilst i accept some white people were enslaved (according to the Guardian link) none were colonised or lynched and you need to accept that, the same as you must now accept black African slaves outnumbered that of white by 12 - 1 (according to the Guardian link)......and neither of you appear to accept that just as you don't about Americas horrendous inhumane history of segregation. As i said in the post you quoted, what can be more bitter, twisted and full of hate than segregation because of a persons skin colour? That what was still going on in America as late as the 50s and even after the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964, took years to enforce. Yet you stay quite about modern day slavery in the Islamic world and deny white slavery ... Go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebishbus Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Countries involved in modern day slavery . China, Democratic Republic of the Congo,India. Indonesia ,Iran,Nigeria,North Korea,Pakistan The Philippines and Russia .Responsible for 60% of modern day slavery. Much protesting going on there I wonder. Brian B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teflon2 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-06-07 8:17 PM teflon2 - 2020-06-07 6:20 PM Bulletguy - 2020-06-06 6:52 PM Serfs were land tenants and couldn't be sold or bought where slaves were owned so could be bought and sold by anyone. The Scottish Highland clearances is a good example of serfdom. Wrong quote from Concise Oxford English dictionary. Serf person whose service is attached to the soil and transferred with it . Oppressed person, drudge (slave ) As such would be passed on with the land deeds also any issue ( children ) That's pretty much what i said. Land tenants (attached to the land) in that they were not owned where slaves were. A serf could only be sold or bought by sale or transfer of the land they tenanted....not the individual themselves. You claimed white people were never enslaved Serfs were not freemen therefore they were slaves completely controlled by their feudal lord ie their property. Concise Oxford English dictionary Slave person who is the legal property of another or others and is bound to absolute obedience, human chattel helpless victim of some dominating influence. Being sold off with the soil I would think is covered by the above. In all fairness the 2nd description covers the Negro slave trade. Final comment on this subject as I find the whole thing distressful. Nazi Germany maintained slave labour using the following unreliable elements . Homeless, Homosexuals, Criminals, Political dissidents, Communists, and Jews No doubt many of these were white and were historicaly enslaved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Political activist Lewis Hamilton is now demanding all symbols of racism be removed ... He drives for Mercedes of course , didn't they more than help The Nazis ??? ... Presume that dont count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartO Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 Not seen what Lewis is actually doing or demading now but I hope he's not still demanding that all the other drivers line up with his opinions or else ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-06-10 12:36 PM Political activist Lewis Hamilton is now demanding all symbols of racism be removed ... He drives for Mercedes of course , didn't they more than help The Nazis ??? ... Presume that dont count Good point Antony. Ignorance appears to be bliss on his part. We can’t erase history all we can do is acknowledge that it has it’s ugly side by modern day standards. How much we choose to reflect that should be by democratic means, not by random acts of vandalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartO Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 Violet1956 - 2020-06-10 1:55 PM .... We can’t erase history all we can do is acknowledge that it has it’s ugly side by modern day standards. How much we choose to reflect that should be by democratic means, not by random acts of vandalism. Some people do try to erase and sometimes even to re-write history of course - and wouldn't emotional reaction leading to escalating crowd disorder and vandalism be a better way of describing what's been happening since George Floyd lost his life in police custody? Due process in the prosecution of the police officers involved in Mr Floyd's arrest seems likely to be problematic in the extreme. And since evidence has emerged of a flare gun being fired by someone (seemingly a white man) at the horse which then bolted and seriously injured the police rider, should we hope for charges and due process in that case too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 StuartO - 2020-06-10 2:29 PM Violet1956 - 2020-06-10 1:55 PM .... We can’t erase history all we can do is acknowledge that it has it’s ugly side by modern day standards. How much we choose to reflect that should be by democratic means, not by random acts of vandalism. Some people do try to erase and sometimes even to re-write history of course - and wouldn't emotional reaction leading to escalating crowd disorder and vandalism be a better way of describing what's been happening since George Floyd lost his life in police custody? Due process in the prosecution of the police officers involved in Mr Floyd's arrest seems likely to be problematic in the extreme. And since evidence has emerged of a flare gun being fired by someone (seemingly a white man) at the horse which then bolted and seriously injured the police rider, should we hope for charges and due process in that case too? One has to wonder whether due process in George Floyd’s case resulted from the integrity of the legal system in the US. It has yet to be shown that the police are always held accountable for their actions. I have my suspicion that it was the widescale publicity that followed that put the officers in the frame. The incident where the policewoman was unseated from her horse was horrific. Like many I’m sure, I hope they get the person/people responsible and charge them with the offences that led up to this incident. I think now is the time for even peaceful demonstrators to take themselves off the streets. If they have an ounce of common decency and integrity they should appreciate that an anarchical minority have done much to undermine the message they seek to promote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-06-10 12:36 PM Political activist Lewis Hamilton is now demanding all symbols of racism be removed ... He drives for Mercedes of course , didn't they more than help The Nazis ??? ... Presume that dont count After ww2 they moved on, times change, hence the reason the Swastika is banned in a number of European countries with Germany being the most strict prohibiting public display of all symbols and propaganda. You won't find any statues or images of Hitler, Goering, Himmler etc there. Here is Antifa in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-06-10 3:29 PM Birdbrain - 2020-06-10 12:36 PM Political activist Lewis Hamilton is now demanding all symbols of racism be removed ... He drives for Mercedes of course , didn't they more than help The Nazis ??? ... Presume that dont count After ww2 they moved on, times change, hence the reason the Swastika is banned in a number of European countries with Germany being the most strict prohibiting public display of all symbols and propaganda. You won't find any statues or images of Hitler, Goering, Himmler etc there. Here is Antifa in action. We've moved on ... Our statues were mostly in place long before Hitler and long before mass immigration to this country ... Think you'll find in Germany there are many things from the Nazi era still around , if Germans were so bothered they'd want them removed , they dont so does that make them Nazis ??? No of course not just as statues from the past dont make folk racist here ... Hate on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartO Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 Violet1956 - 2020-06-10 3:05 PM StuartO - 2020-06-10 2:29 PM Violet1956 - 2020-06-10 1:55 PM .... We can’t erase history all we can do is acknowledge that it has it’s ugly side by modern day standards. How much we choose to reflect that should be by democratic means, not by random acts of vandalism. Some people do try to erase and sometimes even to re-write history of course - and wouldn't emotional reaction leading to escalating crowd disorder and vandalism be a better way of describing what's been happening since George Floyd lost his life in police custody? Due process in the prosecution of the police officers involved in Mr Floyd's arrest seems likely to be problematic in the extreme. And since evidence has emerged of a flare gun being fired by someone (seemingly a white man) at the horse which then bolted and seriously injured the police rider, should we hope for charges and due process in that case too? One has to wonder whether due process in George Floyd’s case resulted from the integrity of the legal system in the US. It has yet to be shown that the police are always held accountable for their actions. I have my suspicion that it was the widescale publicity that followed that put the officers in the frame. The incident where the policewoman was unseated from her horse was horrific. Like many I’m sure, I hope they get the person/people responsible and charge them with the offences that led up to this incident. I think now is the time for even peaceful demonstrators to take themselves off the streets. If they have an ounce of common decency and integrity they should appreciate that an anarchical minority have done much to undermine the message they seek to promote. I’m sure you’re right that the wave of adverse public reaction provoked the rapid sacking and charging - and then the upgrading of the charges. Prosecutions of white police have anyway often failed because juries wouldn’t convict them and sometimes the prosecution wouldn’t even get as far as a trial. Hence the many reasons for cynicism and contempt from blacks about repeated failures of justice. At the same time you have to worry about whether the policeman can get anything like a fair trial - and two of the four were complete novices, at least one of whom said “you shouldn’t be doing that” to the lead policeman. And the US justice system relies on elected police chiefs, prosecutors and judges, who need to think about getting re-elected. It’s almost a nightmare scenario of a justice system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 One has to wonder how far back and who the haters want to pick on with regards to folk showing support for slavery ... Maybe they want to have a look at their own Bible ...The Guardian who way back in the day opposed Abraham Lincolns slavery reforms ... If we are getting all tetchy and petty we need to look at em all ... I want the Guardian offices burnt to the ground and anyone that says no is a " raciiiiiiiiiiiist" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Oh Lordy ... Whitbys Captain Cook is guna end up in the harbour ... https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/captain-cook-topple-racists-hit-18394898 ... The haters are taking over aren't they ... Poor darlings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-06-10 5:55 PM Bulletguy - 2020-06-10 3:29 PM Birdbrain - 2020-06-10 12:36 PM Political activist Lewis Hamilton is now demanding all symbols of racism be removed ... He drives for Mercedes of course , didn't they more than help The Nazis ??? ... Presume that dont count After ww2 they moved on, times change, hence the reason the Swastika is banned in a number of European countries with Germany being the most strict prohibiting public display of all symbols and propaganda. You won't find any statues or images of Hitler, Goering, Himmler etc there. Here is Antifa in action. We've moved on ... Our statues were mostly in place long before Hitler and long before mass immigration to this country ... Think you'll find in Germany there are many things from the Nazi era still around , Buildings and concentration camps, yes.....no symbols though. Not allowed. if Germans were so bothered they'd want them removed , they dont so does that make them Nazis ??? Actually some Germans do.......neo-Nazis. Nasty bunch and not all are instantly recognisable either. Prime targets for attacks are concentration camps and the Jewish memorial in Berlin which is under police guard 24/7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-06-10 7:16 PM Birdbrain - 2020-06-10 5:55 PM Bulletguy - 2020-06-10 3:29 PM Birdbrain - 2020-06-10 12:36 PM Political activist Lewis Hamilton is now demanding all symbols of racism be removed ... He drives for Mercedes of course , didn't they more than help The Nazis ??? ... Presume that dont count After ww2 they moved on, times change, hence the reason the Swastika is banned in a number of European countries with Germany being the most strict prohibiting public display of all symbols and propaganda. You won't find any statues or images of Hitler, Goering, Himmler etc there. Here is Antifa in action. We've moved on ... Our statues were mostly in place long before Hitler and long before mass immigration to this country ... Think you'll find in Germany there are many things from the Nazi era still around , Buildings and concentration camps, yes.....no symbols though. Not allowed. if Germans were so bothered they'd want them removed , they dont so does that make them Nazis ??? Actually some Germans do.......neo-Nazis. Nasty bunch and not all are instantly recognisable either. Prime targets for attacks are concentration camps and the Jewish memorial in Berlin which is under police guard 24/7. So a building built in Nazi Germanys all conquering glory to celebrate Nazi Germany with much Jewish slave labour isnt a symbol of Nazi Germany ??? ... Go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-06-10 7:22 PM Bulletguy - 2020-06-10 7:16 PM Birdbrain - 2020-06-10 5:55 PM Bulletguy - 2020-06-10 3:29 PM Birdbrain - 2020-06-10 12:36 PM Political activist Lewis Hamilton is now demanding all symbols of racism be removed ... He drives for Mercedes of course , didn't they more than help The Nazis ??? ... Presume that dont count After ww2 they moved on, times change, hence the reason the Swastika is banned in a number of European countries with Germany being the most strict prohibiting public display of all symbols and propaganda. You won't find any statues or images of Hitler, Goering, Himmler etc there. Here is Antifa in action. We've moved on ... Our statues were mostly in place long before Hitler and long before mass immigration to this country ... Think you'll find in Germany there are many things from the Nazi era still around , Buildings and concentration camps, yes.....no symbols though. Not allowed. if Germans were so bothered they'd want them removed , they dont so does that make them Nazis ??? Actually some Germans do.......neo-Nazis. Nasty bunch and not all are instantly recognisable either. Prime targets for attacks are concentration camps and the Jewish memorial in Berlin which is under police guard 24/7. So a building built in Nazi Germanys all conquering glory to celebrate Nazi Germany with much Jewish slave labour isnt a symbol of Nazi Germany ??? ... Go figure You forgot the Roma, Russians, Jehovah Witnesses, Homosexuals, and Political prisoners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-06-10 7:40 PM Birdbrain - 2020-06-10 7:22 PM Bulletguy - 2020-06-10 7:16 PM Birdbrain - 2020-06-10 5:55 PM Bulletguy - 2020-06-10 3:29 PM Birdbrain - 2020-06-10 12:36 PM Political activist Lewis Hamilton is now demanding all symbols of racism be removed ... He drives for Mercedes of course , didn't they more than help The Nazis ??? ... Presume that dont count After ww2 they moved on, times change, hence the reason the Swastika is banned in a number of European countries with Germany being the most strict prohibiting public display of all symbols and propaganda. You won't find any statues or images of Hitler, Goering, Himmler etc there. Here is Antifa in action. We've moved on ... Our statues were mostly in place long before Hitler and long before mass immigration to this country ... Think you'll find in Germany there are many things from the Nazi era still around , Buildings and concentration camps, yes.....no symbols though. Not allowed. if Germans were so bothered they'd want them removed , they dont so does that make them Nazis ??? Actually some Germans do.......neo-Nazis. Nasty bunch and not all are instantly recognisable either. Prime targets for attacks are concentration camps and the Jewish memorial in Berlin which is under police guard 24/7. So a building built in Nazi Germanys all conquering glory to celebrate Nazi Germany with much Jewish slave labour isnt a symbol of Nazi Germany ??? ... Go figure You forgot the Roma, Russians, Jehovah Witnesses, Homosexuals, and Political prisoners. You forget racism towards whites ... Your point is ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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