Brian Kirby Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-08-31 8:43 AM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-30 11:35 AM pelmetman - 2020-08-29 9:10 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-29 1:14 PM All engineering is a exercise in risk management. Sometimes failures are due to error, sometimes to poor construction practices or materials, sometimes to inadequate maintenance, and sometimes to unforeseen circumstances, 1 Sounds a bit like Empire building ;-) ......... 2 I've yet to see one last more than a few hundred years in recent times :D ....... 1 So do you think railways are generally safe ways to travel? 2 Sentence make no sense whatever! Can you translate into normal English, please? For instance, "one" what? Given that few of us live to 100, can anyone see anything "last more than few hundred years"? How could something "last a few hundred years in recent times"? What do you mean by "recent times"? 1.........It's a valid point ;-) .........Do bridges not have a finite life span (?) ........ 2........European Empires appear to have lasted a few hundred years in recent times, do you think the EU will last that long? >:-) .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_empires 1 Yes they do. Which is why they, like all other railway installations, have periodic inspections - ultimately by engineers. It is also why whenever there is a serious rail accident there is an enquiry into its cause, and why recommendations are given to eliminate a repeat, and why the engineers then modify their practice to ensure that happens. It is baked into the history of the railways, which is why they are now. overall, the safest means of surface travel. So student engineers are taught what is safe, and how to achieve it, and what is not, and how to avoid it. Safety is based on a history of accident and incident that present practitioners have to understand. The same is true in all fields of engineering, and the theories that underpin their calculations are modified to maintain that. That is why they need education to such high levels before they are allowed to begin practice, and why they are endlessly updated on changes as they work. Taking away the education, and rolling back the levels of accumulated knowledge, means that the same mistakes are liable to be repeated over and over. How would that be better than professionally trained and educated practitioners designing and supervising the execution of, and maintenance of, major infrastructure projects, buildings, services distribution networks etc. etc.? Universities are where people study engineering principles (and a host of other things) that need to be understood to enable those working in whatever field to perform them better. Isn't that just common sense? Or do you prefer to take advice from the man in the pub? Good luck with that when your building your next power station! :-D 2 But first, you have to understand what an Empire is: https://tinyurl.com/y24y4uzm Then you will understand why your analogy is incorrect. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-08-31 1:02 PM pelmetman - 2020-08-31 8:43 AM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-30 11:35 AM pelmetman - 2020-08-29 9:10 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-29 1:14 PM All engineering is a exercise in risk management. Sometimes failures are due to error, sometimes to poor construction practices or materials, sometimes to inadequate maintenance, and sometimes to unforeseen circumstances, 1 Sounds a bit like Empire building ;-) ......... 2 I've yet to see one last more than a few hundred years in recent times :D ....... 1 So do you think railways are generally safe ways to travel? 2 Sentence make no sense whatever! Can you translate into normal English, please? For instance, "one" what? Given that few of us live to 100, can anyone see anything "last more than few hundred years"? How could something "last a few hundred years in recent times"? What do you mean by "recent times"? 1.........It's a valid point ;-) .........Do bridges not have a finite life span (?) ........ 2........European Empires appear to have lasted a few hundred years in recent times, do you think the EU will last that long? >:-) .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_empires 1 Yes they do. Which is why they, like all other railway installations, have periodic inspections - ultimately by engineers. It is also why whenever there is a serious rail accident there is an enquiry into its cause, and why recommendations are given to eliminate a repeat, and why the engineers then modify their practice to ensure that happens. It is baked into the history of the railways, which is why they are now. overall, the safest means of surface travel. So student engineers are taught what is safe, and how to achieve it, and what is not, and how to avoid it. Safety is based on a history of accident and incident that present practitioners have to understand. The same is true in all fields of engineering, and the theories that underpin their calculations are modified to maintain that. That is why they need education to such high levels before they are allowed to begin practice, and why they are endlessly updated on changes as they work. Taking away the education, and rolling back the levels of accumulated knowledge, means that the same mistakes are liable to be repeated over and over. How would that be better than professionally trained and educated practitioners designing and supervising the execution of, and maintenance of, major infrastructure projects, buildings, services distribution networks etc. etc.? Universities are where people study engineering principles (and a host of other things) that need to be understood to enable those working in whatever field to perform them better. Isn't that just common sense? Or do you prefer to take advice from the man in the pub? Good luck with that when your building your next power station! :-D 2 But first, you have to understand what an Empire is: https://tinyurl.com/y24y4uzm Then you will understand why your analogy is incorrect. :-D 1.......So a clever bloke invents a fancy bridge ;-) .......Then employ's thick blokes to build it 8-) ...... 2........I would click on your link ;-) ......... 3........But I cant be ar*ed today (lol) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-08-31 7:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-31 1:02 PM pelmetman - 2020-08-31 8:43 AM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-30 11:35 AM pelmetman - 2020-08-29 9:10 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-29 1:14 PM All engineering is a exercise in risk management. Sometimes failures are due to error, sometimes to poor construction practices or materials, sometimes to inadequate maintenance, and sometimes to unforeseen circumstances, 1 Sounds a bit like Empire building ;-) ......... 2 I've yet to see one last more than a few hundred years in recent times :D ....... 1 So do you think railways are generally safe ways to travel? 2 Sentence make no sense whatever! Can you translate into normal English, please? For instance, "one" what? Given that few of us live to 100, can anyone see anything "last more than few hundred years"? How could something "last a few hundred years in recent times"? What do you mean by "recent times"? 1.........It's a valid point ;-) .........Do bridges not have a finite life span (?) ........ 2........European Empires appear to have lasted a few hundred years in recent times, do you think the EU will last that long? >:-) .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_empires 1 Yes they do. Which is why they, like all other railway installations, have periodic inspections - ultimately by engineers. It is also why whenever there is a serious rail accident there is an enquiry into its cause, and why recommendations are given to eliminate a repeat, and why the engineers then modify their practice to ensure that happens. It is baked into the history of the railways, which is why they are now. overall, the safest means of surface travel. So student engineers are taught what is safe, and how to achieve it, and what is not, and how to avoid it. Safety is based on a history of accident and incident that present practitioners have to understand. The same is true in all fields of engineering, and the theories that underpin their calculations are modified to maintain that. That is why they need education to such high levels before they are allowed to begin practice, and why they are endlessly updated on changes as they work. Taking away the education, and rolling back the levels of accumulated knowledge, means that the same mistakes are liable to be repeated over and over. How would that be better than professionally trained and educated practitioners designing and supervising the execution of, and maintenance of, major infrastructure projects, buildings, services distribution networks etc. etc.? Universities are where people study engineering principles (and a host of other things) that need to be understood to enable those working in whatever field to perform them better. Isn't that just common sense? Or do you prefer to take advice from the man in the pub? Good luck with that when your building your next power station! :-D 2 But first, you have to understand what an Empire is: https://tinyurl.com/y24y4uzm Then you will understand why your analogy is incorrect. :-D 1.......So a clever bloke invents a fancy bridge ;-) .......Then employ's thick blokes to build it 8-) ...... 2........I would click on your link ;-) ......... 3........But I cant be ar*ed today (lol) ........ 1) Johnson isn't clever......just a dreamer who spaffed £53 million quid of taxpayers money up the wall on a bridge that never happened. Not satisfied with that he now wants to spaff £15 billion on an Irish bridge. The thick folk are those who voted for the toss pot. 2 and 3) Another way of admitting you've been roundly defeated but too cowardly to concede. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-08-31 8:23 PM pelmetman - 2020-08-31 7:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-31 1:02 PM pelmetman - 2020-08-31 8:43 AM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-30 11:35 AM pelmetman - 2020-08-29 9:10 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-29 1:14 PM All engineering is a exercise in risk management. Sometimes failures are due to error, sometimes to poor construction practices or materials, sometimes to inadequate maintenance, and sometimes to unforeseen circumstances, 1 Sounds a bit like Empire building ;-) ......... 2 I've yet to see one last more than a few hundred years in recent times :D ....... 1 So do you think railways are generally safe ways to travel? 2 Sentence make no sense whatever! Can you translate into normal English, please? For instance, "one" what? Given that few of us live to 100, can anyone see anything "last more than few hundred years"? How could something "last a few hundred years in recent times"? What do you mean by "recent times"? 1.........It's a valid point ;-) .........Do bridges not have a finite life span (?) ........ 2........European Empires appear to have lasted a few hundred years in recent times, do you think the EU will last that long? >:-) .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_empires 1 Yes they do. Which is why they, like all other railway installations, have periodic inspections - ultimately by engineers. It is also why whenever there is a serious rail accident there is an enquiry into its cause, and why recommendations are given to eliminate a repeat, and why the engineers then modify their practice to ensure that happens. It is baked into the history of the railways, which is why they are now. overall, the safest means of surface travel. So student engineers are taught what is safe, and how to achieve it, and what is not, and how to avoid it. Safety is based on a history of accident and incident that present practitioners have to understand. The same is true in all fields of engineering, and the theories that underpin their calculations are modified to maintain that. That is why they need education to such high levels before they are allowed to begin practice, and why they are endlessly updated on changes as they work. Taking away the education, and rolling back the levels of accumulated knowledge, means that the same mistakes are liable to be repeated over and over. How would that be better than professionally trained and educated practitioners designing and supervising the execution of, and maintenance of, major infrastructure projects, buildings, services distribution networks etc. etc.? Universities are where people study engineering principles (and a host of other things) that need to be understood to enable those working in whatever field to perform them better. Isn't that just common sense? Or do you prefer to take advice from the man in the pub? Good luck with that when your building your next power station! :-D 2 But first, you have to understand what an Empire is: https://tinyurl.com/y24y4uzm Then you will understand why your analogy is incorrect. :-D 1.......So a clever bloke invents a fancy bridge ;-) .......Then employ's thick blokes to build it 8-) ...... 2........I would click on your link ;-) ......... 3........But I cant be ar*ed today (lol) ........ 1) Johnson isn't clever......just a dreamer who spaffed £53 million quid of taxpayers money up the wall on a bridge that never happened. Not satisfied with that he now wants to spaff £15 billion on an Irish bridge. The thick folk are those who voted for the toss pot. 2 and 3) Another way of admitting you've been roundly defeated but too cowardly to concede. *-) Snigger >:-) ........ Says the bloke who's Dopes hope has just managed to tie with Boris >:-) ....... Even Loser Corbyn managed to turn the polls red (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Best hope we don't do better than the EU after Crimbo eh?........LOSER >:-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-08-31 8:37 PM Bulletguy - 2020-08-31 8:23 PM pelmetman - 2020-08-31 7:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-31 1:02 PM pelmetman - 2020-08-31 8:43 AM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-30 11:35 AM pelmetman - 2020-08-29 9:10 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-29 1:14 PM All engineering is a exercise in risk management. Sometimes failures are due to error, sometimes to poor construction practices or materials, sometimes to inadequate maintenance, and sometimes to unforeseen circumstances, 1 Sounds a bit like Empire building ;-) ......... 2 I've yet to see one last more than a few hundred years in recent times :D ....... 1 So do you think railways are generally safe ways to travel? 2 Sentence make no sense whatever! Can you translate into normal English, please? For instance, "one" what? Given that few of us live to 100, can anyone see anything "last more than few hundred years"? How could something "last a few hundred years in recent times"? What do you mean by "recent times"? 1.........It's a valid point ;-) .........Do bridges not have a finite life span (?) ........ 2........European Empires appear to have lasted a few hundred years in recent times, do you think the EU will last that long? >:-) .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_empires 1 Yes they do. Which is why they, like all other railway installations, have periodic inspections - ultimately by engineers. It is also why whenever there is a serious rail accident there is an enquiry into its cause, and why recommendations are given to eliminate a repeat, and why the engineers then modify their practice to ensure that happens. It is baked into the history of the railways, which is why they are now. overall, the safest means of surface travel. So student engineers are taught what is safe, and how to achieve it, and what is not, and how to avoid it. Safety is based on a history of accident and incident that present practitioners have to understand. The same is true in all fields of engineering, and the theories that underpin their calculations are modified to maintain that. That is why they need education to such high levels before they are allowed to begin practice, and why they are endlessly updated on changes as they work. Taking away the education, and rolling back the levels of accumulated knowledge, means that the same mistakes are liable to be repeated over and over. How would that be better than professionally trained and educated practitioners designing and supervising the execution of, and maintenance of, major infrastructure projects, buildings, services distribution networks etc. etc.? Universities are where people study engineering principles (and a host of other things) that need to be understood to enable those working in whatever field to perform them better. Isn't that just common sense? Or do you prefer to take advice from the man in the pub? Good luck with that when your building your next power station! :-D 2 But first, you have to understand what an Empire is: https://tinyurl.com/y24y4uzm Then you will understand why your analogy is incorrect. :-D 1.......So a clever bloke invents a fancy bridge ;-) .......Then employ's thick blokes to build it 8-) ...... 2........I would click on your link ;-) ......... 3........But I cant be ar*ed today (lol) ........ 1) Johnson isn't clever......just a dreamer who spaffed £53 million quid of taxpayers money up the wall on a bridge that never happened. Not satisfied with that he now wants to spaff £15 billion on an Irish bridge. The thick folk are those who voted for the toss pot. 2 and 3) Another way of admitting you've been roundly defeated but too cowardly to concede. *-) Snigger >:-) ........ Yep that's another one you come out with every time you've been cornered. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-08-31 8:59 PM pelmetman - 2020-08-31 8:37 PM Bulletguy - 2020-08-31 8:23 PM pelmetman - 2020-08-31 7:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-31 1:02 PM pelmetman - 2020-08-31 8:43 AM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-30 11:35 AM pelmetman - 2020-08-29 9:10 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-29 1:14 PM All engineering is a exercise in risk management. Sometimes failures are due to error, sometimes to poor construction practices or materials, sometimes to inadequate maintenance, and sometimes to unforeseen circumstances, 1 Sounds a bit like Empire building ;-) ......... 2 I've yet to see one last more than a few hundred years in recent times :D ....... 1 So do you think railways are generally safe ways to travel? 2 Sentence make no sense whatever! Can you translate into normal English, please? For instance, "one" what? Given that few of us live to 100, can anyone see anything "last more than few hundred years"? How could something "last a few hundred years in recent times"? What do you mean by "recent times"? 1.........It's a valid point ;-) .........Do bridges not have a finite life span (?) ........ 2........European Empires appear to have lasted a few hundred years in recent times, do you think the EU will last that long? >:-) .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_empires 1 Yes they do. Which is why they, like all other railway installations, have periodic inspections - ultimately by engineers. It is also why whenever there is a serious rail accident there is an enquiry into its cause, and why recommendations are given to eliminate a repeat, and why the engineers then modify their practice to ensure that happens. It is baked into the history of the railways, which is why they are now. overall, the safest means of surface travel. So student engineers are taught what is safe, and how to achieve it, and what is not, and how to avoid it. Safety is based on a history of accident and incident that present practitioners have to understand. The same is true in all fields of engineering, and the theories that underpin their calculations are modified to maintain that. That is why they need education to such high levels before they are allowed to begin practice, and why they are endlessly updated on changes as they work. Taking away the education, and rolling back the levels of accumulated knowledge, means that the same mistakes are liable to be repeated over and over. How would that be better than professionally trained and educated practitioners designing and supervising the execution of, and maintenance of, major infrastructure projects, buildings, services distribution networks etc. etc.? Universities are where people study engineering principles (and a host of other things) that need to be understood to enable those working in whatever field to perform them better. Isn't that just common sense? Or do you prefer to take advice from the man in the pub? Good luck with that when your building your next power station! :-D 2 But first, you have to understand what an Empire is: https://tinyurl.com/y24y4uzm Then you will understand why your analogy is incorrect. :-D 1.......So a clever bloke invents a fancy bridge ;-) .......Then employ's thick blokes to build it 8-) ...... 2........I would click on your link ;-) ......... 3........But I cant be ar*ed today (lol) ........ 1) Johnson isn't clever......just a dreamer who spaffed £53 million quid of taxpayers money up the wall on a bridge that never happened. Not satisfied with that he now wants to spaff £15 billion on an Irish bridge. The thick folk are those who voted for the toss pot. 2 and 3) Another way of admitting you've been roundly defeated but too cowardly to concede. *-) Snigger >:-) ........ Yep that's another one you come out with every time you've been cornered. *-) The thing is DUMB DUMB ;-) ..... I ain't cornered >:-) ...... Blighty is going in my direction B-) ....... The RIGHT way :D ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-08-31 9:03 PM Bulletguy - 2020-08-31 8:59 PM pelmetman - 2020-08-31 8:37 PM Bulletguy - 2020-08-31 8:23 PM pelmetman - 2020-08-31 7:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-31 1:02 PM pelmetman - 2020-08-31 8:43 AM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-30 11:35 AM pelmetman - 2020-08-29 9:10 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-29 1:14 PM All engineering is a exercise in risk management. Sometimes failures are due to error, sometimes to poor construction practices or materials, sometimes to inadequate maintenance, and sometimes to unforeseen circumstances, 1 Sounds a bit like Empire building ;-) ......... 2 I've yet to see one last more than a few hundred years in recent times :D ....... 1 So do you think railways are generally safe ways to travel? 2 Sentence make no sense whatever! Can you translate into normal English, please? For instance, "one" what? Given that few of us live to 100, can anyone see anything "last more than few hundred years"? How could something "last a few hundred years in recent times"? What do you mean by "recent times"? 1.........It's a valid point ;-) .........Do bridges not have a finite life span (?) ........ 2........European Empires appear to have lasted a few hundred years in recent times, do you think the EU will last that long? >:-) .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_empires 1 Yes they do. Which is why they, like all other railway installations, have periodic inspections - ultimately by engineers. It is also why whenever there is a serious rail accident there is an enquiry into its cause, and why recommendations are given to eliminate a repeat, and why the engineers then modify their practice to ensure that happens. It is baked into the history of the railways, which is why they are now. overall, the safest means of surface travel. So student engineers are taught what is safe, and how to achieve it, and what is not, and how to avoid it. Safety is based on a history of accident and incident that present practitioners have to understand. The same is true in all fields of engineering, and the theories that underpin their calculations are modified to maintain that. That is why they need education to such high levels before they are allowed to begin practice, and why they are endlessly updated on changes as they work. Taking away the education, and rolling back the levels of accumulated knowledge, means that the same mistakes are liable to be repeated over and over. How would that be better than professionally trained and educated practitioners designing and supervising the execution of, and maintenance of, major infrastructure projects, buildings, services distribution networks etc. etc.? Universities are where people study engineering principles (and a host of other things) that need to be understood to enable those working in whatever field to perform them better. Isn't that just common sense? Or do you prefer to take advice from the man in the pub? Good luck with that when your building your next power station! :-D 2 But first, you have to understand what an Empire is: https://tinyurl.com/y24y4uzm Then you will understand why your analogy is incorrect. :-D 1.......So a clever bloke invents a fancy bridge ;-) .......Then employ's thick blokes to build it 8-) ...... 2........I would click on your link ;-) ......... 3........But I cant be ar*ed today (lol) ........ 1) Johnson isn't clever......just a dreamer who spaffed £53 million quid of taxpayers money up the wall on a bridge that never happened. Not satisfied with that he now wants to spaff £15 billion on an Irish bridge. The thick folk are those who voted for the toss pot. 2 and 3) Another way of admitting you've been roundly defeated but too cowardly to concede. *-) Snigger >:-) ........ Yep that's another one you come out with every time you've been cornered. *-) The thing is DUMB DUMB ;-) ..... I ain't cornered >:-) ...... First you got cornered on engineering bridges then you got cornered on your definition of Empire. Brian had you stitched up like a kipper and because you persist in wriggling and squirming like a worm, you just end up a laughing stock. Blighty is going in my direction B-) ....... The RIGHT way :D ......... You lot have dragged this country to hell in a handcart. Where are these 40 brand new hospitals? Where are the 20,000 police officers? Where is this "oven ready" deal....still in the freezer? Where are the tax cuts he promised? The list is endless and you voted Johnson, a serial liar, for no other reason than Brexit. You've got a LOT to deliver on and you're going to be held to account for every single thing that isn't delivered or goes belly up. Sooner or later it's going to come back and bite you when you least expect and wipe that smirk off for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-08-31 9:57 PM You lot have dragged this country to hell in a handcart. Where are these 40 brand new hospitals? Where are the 20,000 police officers? Where is this "oven ready" deal....still in the freezer? Where are the tax cuts he promised? The list is endless and you voted Johnson, a serial liar, for no other reason than Brexit. You've got a LOT to deliver on and you're going to be held to account for every single thing that isn't delivered or goes belly up. Sooner or later it's going to come back and bite you when you least expect and wipe that smirk off for good. Us lot built umpteen Nightingale hospitals in just a few weeks ;-) ......... Just smirking >:-) ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-08-31 10:05 PM Bulletguy - 2020-08-31 9:57 PM You lot have dragged this country to hell in a handcart. Where are these 40 brand new hospitals? Where are the 20,000 police officers? Where is this "oven ready" deal....still in the freezer? Where are the tax cuts he promised? The list is endless and you voted Johnson, a serial liar, for no other reason than Brexit. You've got a LOT to deliver on and you're going to be held to account for every single thing that isn't delivered or goes belly up. Sooner or later it's going to come back and bite you when you least expect and wipe that smirk off for good. Us lot built umpteen Nightingale hospitals in just a few weeks ;-) ......... Just LYING >:-) ............ Sorted that typo for you as you have NOT "built" any hospitals all.....simply repurposed buildings such as exhibition centres so stop LYING. Here is the list; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHS_Nightingale_Hospitals Also because you were so desperate to chase off EU workers, you'd overlooked how they were going to be staffed so clown Johnson thinks cabin crew will do. So yet another major fail by your party of loonies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-08-31 7:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-31 1:02 PM pelmetman - 2020-08-31 8:43 AM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-30 11:35 AM pelmetman - 2020-08-29 9:10 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-08-29 1:14 PM All engineering is a exercise in risk management. Sometimes failures are due to error, sometimes to poor construction practices or materials, sometimes to inadequate maintenance, and sometimes to unforeseen circumstances, 1 Sounds a bit like Empire building ;-) ......... 2 I've yet to see one last more than a few hundred years in recent times :D ....... 1 So do you think railways are generally safe ways to travel? 2 Sentence make no sense whatever! Can you translate into normal English, please? For instance, "one" what? Given that few of us live to 100, can anyone see anything "last more than few hundred years"? How could something "last a few hundred years in recent times"? What do you mean by "recent times"? 1.........It's a valid point ;-) .........Do bridges not have a finite life span (?) ........ 2........European Empires appear to have lasted a few hundred years in recent times, do you think the EU will last that long? >:-) .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_empires 1 Yes they do. Which is why they, like all other railway installations, have periodic inspections - ultimately by engineers. It is also why whenever there is a serious rail accident there is an enquiry into its cause, and why recommendations are given to eliminate a repeat, and why the engineers then modify their practice to ensure that happens. It is baked into the history of the railways, which is why they are now. overall, the safest means of surface travel. So student engineers are taught what is safe, and how to achieve it, and what is not, and how to avoid it. Safety is based on a history of accident and incident that present practitioners have to understand. The same is true in all fields of engineering, and the theories that underpin their calculations are modified to maintain that. That is why they need education to such high levels before they are allowed to begin practice, and why they are endlessly updated on changes as they work. Taking away the education, and rolling back the levels of accumulated knowledge, means that the same mistakes are liable to be repeated over and over. How would that be better than professionally trained and educated practitioners designing and supervising the execution of, and maintenance of, major infrastructure projects, buildings, services distribution networks etc. etc.? Universities are where people study engineering principles (and a host of other things) that need to be understood to enable those working in whatever field to perform them better. Isn't that just common sense? Or do you prefer to take advice from the man in the pub? Good luck with that when your building your next power station! :-D 2 But first, you have to understand what an Empire is: https://tinyurl.com/y24y4uzm Then you will understand why your analogy is incorrect. :-D 1.......So a clever bloke invents a fancy bridge ;-) .......Then employ's thick blokes to build it 8-) ...... 2........I would click on your link ;-) ......... 3........But I cant be ar*ed today (lol) ........ 1 What an appalling mis-characterisation. The engineer designs the bridge - bridges were "invented" well over a thousand years ago. The design involves calculating the stresses that the bridge components will be subjected to, and then specifying which materials, in what quantities, will be required to construct it. The designs will go to specialist civil engineering contractors who will tender to will the contract to build it. They will employ other specialist contractors to fabricate and assemble its components, as well as working out the best sequence for erecting it. The only people who get near jobs of that kind are experienced specialists. The work is far too dangerous to allow people such as you grossly unfairly describe anywhere near the site. These guys are, and have to be, thinkers - if they don't want to kill themselves or their workmates. Is there no level you will descend to in pursuing the defence of a bust argument? 2/3 I thought as much. Just don't want to come face to face with facts if you can cling to more comforting fantasy vision you've invented, do you? On yer bike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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