Bulletguy Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-05-11 9:42 AM Bulletguy - 2018-05-10 8:25 PM pelmetman - 2018-05-10 5:20 PM Bulletguy - 2018-05-10 3:55 PM There is no "war zone" and no "blood running all over the floor of a [central London hospital]" that Trump couldn't even name. There never was.....he was lying. Prolly not much blood in the hospital :-| .........As in my experience most of it is usually at the scene 8-) ....... But he's not lying is he? ;-) ........ Yes he was so quit trying to cover for him. His lies have been debunked all over the internet not to mention the subject of much ridicule on his favourite social media site. London does have a murder epidemic worst than New York *-) ...... No it doesn't. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/london-murder-rate-new-york-compare-worse-stabbings-knife-crime-teenagers-statistics-figures-a8286866.html From your own link >:-) .......... "So is it really true that London’s murder rate is now higher than New York’s? Yes, but only if you look at the last two months – which some commentators think is way too short a time frame. The Metropolitan Police has confirmed that it recorded 15 murders in February, while in the same month the New York Police Department (NYPD) recorded 11 killings. In March London also had more murders, albeit by a very slim margin: 22 to New York’s 21." I've emboldened the part you pasted from the article and amazingly overlooked yet that's central to the point and very important when arguing 'does London have a higher murder rate than NY'. Two months is literally a 'snapshot' figure from just eight weeks out of 52. So Trump is currently correct as London has had 63 murders and New York 50 *-) ........ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5963434/london-murder-rate-2018-overtake-new-york-victims-world-capital/ No because you've taken that tiny 'snapshot' from the Sun which, like Trump, specialises in distorting facts spouting wild nonsense totally out of context. It's purposely misleading and agenda driven. Sadly a few people soak this drivel up without looking deeper......if they did they'd quickly discover statistics they don't really want to read or hear because it won't fit their agenda. The article i linked using Met figures goes on to state; But as soon as you start to look beyond the relatively narrow confines of those two months, the statistics start to come out in London’s favour. The Met says there were 8 murders in London in January, which compares with 18 killings in New York during the first month of the year. So were February and March 2018 just blips? Possibly. While those two months may have been the first times in recent history that London had a higher homicide rate than New York, the year-on-year statistics are still firmly suggestive of the UK capital being the less murderous city. There were 116 murders in London in 2017, fewer than half New York’s annual total of 290. The disparity seems even more marked if you look slightly further back, albeit with the caveat that the way the Met presented its data for these years does not allow comparison of exactly the same 12-month time periods. In the calendar year of 2016 there were 334 murders in New York. In the financial year 2016-17 (1 April 2016 to 31 March 2017) there were 102 murders in London, suggesting – but not proving - that at that point the UK’s capital’s murder rate for any given 12-month period was less than a third of New York’s. Similarly, New York had 352 murders in the calendar year 2015, while London’s Metropolitan Police recorded 109 homicides between 1 April 2015 and 31 March 2016. So no matter how you, Murdoch rag papers, Trump or his ilk attempt to spin it, London has a lower murder rate than New York. Maybe Sadiq will sort it? ;-) ........... I suspect this to be your prime motivating factor in spinning such hysteria which i find quite pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-05-11 2:45 PM pelmetman - 2018-05-11 9:42 AM Bulletguy - 2018-05-10 8:25 PM pelmetman - 2018-05-10 5:20 PM Bulletguy - 2018-05-10 3:55 PM There is no "war zone" and no "blood running all over the floor of a [central London hospital]" that Trump couldn't even name. There never was.....he was lying. Prolly not much blood in the hospital :-| .........As in my experience most of it is usually at the scene 8-) ....... But he's not lying is he? ;-) ........ Yes he was so quit trying to cover for him. His lies have been debunked all over the internet not to mention the subject of much ridicule on his favourite social media site. London does have a murder epidemic worst than New York *-) ...... No it doesn't. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/london-murder-rate-new-york-compare-worse-stabbings-knife-crime-teenagers-statistics-figures-a8286866.html From your own link >:-) .......... "So is it really true that London’s murder rate is now higher than New York’s? Yes, but only if you look at the last two months – which some commentators think is way too short a time frame. The Metropolitan Police has confirmed that it recorded 15 murders in February, while in the same month the New York Police Department (NYPD) recorded 11 killings. In March London also had more murders, albeit by a very slim margin: 22 to New York’s 21." I've emboldened the part you pasted from the article and amazingly overlooked yet that's central to the point and very important when arguing 'does London have a higher murder rate than NY'. Two months is literally a 'snapshot' figure from just eight weeks out of 52. So Trump is currently correct as London has had 63 murders and New York 50 *-) ........ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5963434/london-murder-rate-2018-overtake-new-york-victims-world-capital/ No because you've taken that tiny 'snapshot' from the Sun which, like Trump, specialises in distorting facts spouting wild nonsense totally out of context. It's purposely misleading and agenda driven. Sadly a few people soak this drivel up without looking deeper......if they did they'd quickly discover statistics they don't really want to read or hear because it won't fit their agenda. The article i linked using Met figures goes on to state; But as soon as you start to look beyond the relatively narrow confines of those two months, the statistics start to come out in London’s favour. The Met says there were 8 murders in London in January, which compares with 18 killings in New York during the first month of the year. So were February and March 2018 just blips? Possibly. While those two months may have been the first times in recent history that London had a higher homicide rate than New York, the year-on-year statistics are still firmly suggestive of the UK capital being the less murderous city. There were 116 murders in London in 2017, fewer than half New York’s annual total of 290. The disparity seems even more marked if you look slightly further back, albeit with the caveat that the way the Met presented its data for these years does not allow comparison of exactly the same 12-month time periods. In the calendar year of 2016 there were 334 murders in New York. In the financial year 2016-17 (1 April 2016 to 31 March 2017) there were 102 murders in London, suggesting – but not proving - that at that point the UK’s capital’s murder rate for any given 12-month period was less than a third of New York’s. Similarly, New York had 352 murders in the calendar year 2015, while London’s Metropolitan Police recorded 109 homicides between 1 April 2015 and 31 March 2016. So no matter how you, Murdoch rag papers, Trump or his ilk attempt to spin it, London has a lower murder rate than New York. Maybe Sadiq will sort it? ;-) ........... I suspect this to be your prime motivating factor in spinning such hysteria which i find quite pathetic. New York metropolitan area 20 million residents ... London 8 million ... Why go back in time to a Tory London Mayors time in office ??? ... The here and now is where we are bro ... Rape , knife , gun and acid attacks at epidemic levels under Sadick ... Time for him to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 antony1969 - 2018-05-11 5:54 PM Bulletguy - 2018-05-11 2:45 PM pelmetman - 2018-05-11 9:42 AM Bulletguy - 2018-05-10 8:25 PM pelmetman - 2018-05-10 5:20 PM Bulletguy - 2018-05-10 3:55 PM There is no "war zone" and no "blood running all over the floor of a [central London hospital]" that Trump couldn't even name. There never was.....he was lying. Prolly not much blood in the hospital :-| .........As in my experience most of it is usually at the scene 8-) ....... But he's not lying is he? ;-) ........ Yes he was so quit trying to cover for him. His lies have been debunked all over the internet not to mention the subject of much ridicule on his favourite social media site. London does have a murder epidemic worst than New York *-) ...... No it doesn't. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/london-murder-rate-new-york-compare-worse-stabbings-knife-crime-teenagers-statistics-figures-a8286866.html From your own link >:-) .......... "So is it really true that London’s murder rate is now higher than New York’s? Yes, but only if you look at the last two months – which some commentators think is way too short a time frame. The Metropolitan Police has confirmed that it recorded 15 murders in February, while in the same month the New York Police Department (NYPD) recorded 11 killings. In March London also had more murders, albeit by a very slim margin: 22 to New York’s 21." I've emboldened the part you pasted from the article and amazingly overlooked yet that's central to the point and very important when arguing 'does London have a higher murder rate than NY'. Two months is literally a 'snapshot' figure from just eight weeks out of 52. So Trump is currently correct as London has had 63 murders and New York 50 *-) ........ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5963434/london-murder-rate-2018-overtake-new-york-victims-world-capital/ No because you've taken that tiny 'snapshot' from the Sun which, like Trump, specialises in distorting facts spouting wild nonsense totally out of context. It's purposely misleading and agenda driven. Sadly a few people soak this drivel up without looking deeper......if they did they'd quickly discover statistics they don't really want to read or hear because it won't fit their agenda. The article i linked using Met figures goes on to state; But as soon as you start to look beyond the relatively narrow confines of those two months, the statistics start to come out in London’s favour. The Met says there were 8 murders in London in January, which compares with 18 killings in New York during the first month of the year. So were February and March 2018 just blips? Possibly. While those two months may have been the first times in recent history that London had a higher homicide rate than New York, the year-on-year statistics are still firmly suggestive of the UK capital being the less murderous city. There were 116 murders in London in 2017, fewer than half New York’s annual total of 290. The disparity seems even more marked if you look slightly further back, albeit with the caveat that the way the Met presented its data for these years does not allow comparison of exactly the same 12-month time periods. In the calendar year of 2016 there were 334 murders in New York. In the financial year 2016-17 (1 April 2016 to 31 March 2017) there were 102 murders in London, suggesting – but not proving - that at that point the UK’s capital’s murder rate for any given 12-month period was less than a third of New York’s. Similarly, New York had 352 murders in the calendar year 2015, while London’s Metropolitan Police recorded 109 homicides between 1 April 2015 and 31 March 2016. So no matter how you, Murdoch rag papers, Trump or his ilk attempt to spin it, London has a lower murder rate than New York. Maybe Sadiq will sort it? ;-) ........... I suspect this to be your prime motivating factor in spinning such hysteria which i find quite pathetic. New York metropolitan area 20 million residents ... London 8 million It's not based on the metropolitan area....it's based on the city population both of which are comparable and the reason NY is quoted rather than Dallas or Houston in Texas. The two cities have roughly the same number of inhabitants, New York at 8.5 million, London at 8.8 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-05-11 2:45 PM pelmetman - 2018-05-11 9:42 AM Maybe Sadiq will sort it? ;-) ........... I suspect this to be your prime motivating factor in spinning such hysteria which i find quite pathetic. That's rich coming from someone who does nothing all day except slag off Mrs May *-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 Talking of Sadick ... Hes a really nice man ... https://www.freespeechtime.net/2018/05/watch-london-muslim-mayor-encourages.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-05-12 9:44 AM Bulletguy - 2018-05-11 2:45 PM pelmetman - 2018-05-11 9:42 AM Maybe Sadiq will sort it? ;-) ........... I suspect this to be your prime motivating factor in spinning such hysteria which i find quite pathetic. That's rich coming from someone who does nothing all day except slag off Mrs May *-) ........ You've just confirmed what i knew all along was your true prime motivating factor by completely ignoring the many indisputable facts presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-05-12 1:46 PM pelmetman - 2018-05-12 9:44 AM Bulletguy - 2018-05-11 2:45 PM pelmetman - 2018-05-11 9:42 AM Maybe Sadiq will sort it? ;-) ........... I suspect this to be your prime motivating factor in spinning such hysteria which i find quite pathetic. That's rich coming from someone who does nothing all day except slag off Mrs May *-) ........ You've just confirmed what i knew all along was your true prime motivating factor by completely ignoring the many indisputable facts presented. You mean like you're a loony left of left wing Labour voter? ;-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 Oh Lordy what a success this fellas been ... https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1004972267053486080 ... Trouble is due to our capitals Islamification he may well get in next time ... Oh Lordy what a mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 antony1969 - 2018-06-08 6:05 PM Oh Lordy what a success this fellas been ... https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1004972267053486080 ... Trouble is due to our capitals Islamification he may well get in next time ... Oh Lordy what a mess Yeah but robbing and killing whites & Kafirs don't count to the new ethnic Londoners :-| ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 Look at that list ... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5251268/london-stabbings-2018-knife-crime-statistics-deaths/ ... What does Sadick do ... He whinges about POTUS Trump ... Those Londoners got a real bum deal with voting in that fella but whats the bet he'll get in again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Ye and whats Sadick doing about our black London gang crime problem ... https://news.sky.com/story/line-18-gang-warfare-is-killing-londons-young-black-men-11447089 ... Thats right nothing ... Worse than useless ... More interested in flying POTUS Trump over London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Whilst the Mayor of London may have some say in the policing of the city and the allocation of police resources I don't believe it is fair to accuse him as responsible for all or even part of the problems associated with rising crime in our capital. https://www.london.gov.uk/about-us/london-assembly/london-assembly-publications/police-funding-whos-paying-bill It seems that limited resources, the need to make cuts to police budgets and the unwillingness of central government to increase funding, despite the exceptional challenges the Met face is failing London not its Mayor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Violet1956 - 2018-07-25 2:11 PM Whilst the Mayor of London may have some say in the policing of the city and the allocation of police resources I don't believe it is fair to accuse him as responsible for all or even part of the problems associated with rising crime in our capital. https://www.london.gov.uk/about-us/london-assembly/london-assembly-publications/police-funding-whos-paying-bill It seems that limited resources, the need to make cuts to police budgets and the unwillingness of central government to increase funding, despite the exceptional challenges the Met face is failing London not its Mayor. Well maybe he shouldn't have run part of his election campaign on reducing crime in the capital then Veronica ... Always someone else's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Violet1956 - 2018-07-25 2:11 PM It seems that limited resources, the need to make cuts to police budgets and the unwillingness of central government to increase funding, despite the exceptional challenges the Met face is failing London not its Mayor. Dont you think London gets enough of taxpayers dosh? 8-) ............ Maybe our government should spend some money on us white Brits for once *-) .........and you wont find many of those in London :D ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 antony1969 - 2018-07-25 3:06 PM Violet1956 - 2018-07-25 2:11 PM Whilst the Mayor of London may have some say in the policing of the city and the allocation of police resources I don't believe it is fair to accuse him as responsible for all or even part of the problems associated with rising crime in our capital. https://www.london.gov.uk/about-us/london-assembly/london-assembly-publications/police-funding-whos-paying-bill It seems that limited resources, the need to make cuts to police budgets and the unwillingness of central government to increase funding, despite the exceptional challenges the Met face is failing London not its Mayor. Well maybe he shouldn't have run part of his election campaign on reducing crime in the capital then Veronica ... Always someone else's fault You may have a point. Why make promises you know you have no control over? There is a real human cost in respect of the crime in our capital. Some vile crimes committed against many innocent inhabitants. If I was in central government it would my priority to combat any crime in the capital whosoever was Mayor. It may be politically expedient to blame the incumbent Mayor . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Violet1956 - 2018-07-25 3:41 PM antony1969 - 2018-07-25 3:06 PM Violet1956 - 2018-07-25 2:11 PM Whilst the Mayor of London may have some say in the policing of the city and the allocation of police resources I don't believe it is fair to accuse him as responsible for all or even part of the problems associated with rising crime in our capital. https://www.london.gov.uk/about-us/london-assembly/london-assembly-publications/police-funding-whos-paying-bill It seems that limited resources, the need to make cuts to police budgets and the unwillingness of central government to increase funding, despite the exceptional challenges the Met face is failing London not its Mayor. Well maybe he shouldn't have run part of his election campaign on reducing crime in the capital then Veronica ... Always someone else's fault You may have a point. Why make promises you know you have no control over? There is a real human cost in respect of the crime in our capital. Some vile crimes committed against many innocent inhabitants. If I was in central government it would my priority to combat any crime in the capital whosoever was Mayor. It may be politically expedient to blame the incumbent Mayor . An alternative view would be that the loony liberals have reaped what they sowed >:-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Violet1956 - 2018-07-25 3:41 PM antony1969 - 2018-07-25 3:06 PM Violet1956 - 2018-07-25 2:11 PM Whilst the Mayor of London may have some say in the policing of the city and the allocation of police resources I don't believe it is fair to accuse him as responsible for all or even part of the problems associated with rising crime in our capital. https://www.london.gov.uk/about-us/london-assembly/london-assembly-publications/police-funding-whos-paying-bill It seems that limited resources, the need to make cuts to police budgets and the unwillingness of central government to increase funding, despite the exceptional challenges the Met face is failing London not its Mayor. Well maybe he shouldn't have run part of his election campaign on reducing crime in the capital then Veronica ... Always someone else's fault You may have a point. Why make promises you know you have no control over? There is a real human cost in respect of the crime in our capital. Some vile crimes committed against many innocent inhabitants. If I was in central government it would my priority to combat any crime in the capital whosoever was Mayor. It may be politically expedient to blame the incumbent Mayor . As far as crime against "innocent inhabitants" goes excluding Muslim terrorism of course innocent Londoners aren't really the ones to suffer ... It's black on black gang crime Veronica ... Once we accept that and acknowledge young black males find the gangsta lifestyle appealing we can maybe do something about it and if Sadick asked the Met to put some of the outrageous number of cops it has dealing with supposed hate crimes onto black gangsta crime London might become a safer place ... Sadicks the worst thing to happen to London since the great fire but you get what you deserve I suppose ... Vile man with like many other Labour types a very questionable background Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 More death ...More stabbings ... 80 victims this year alone ... 50% of those victims young black males ... Sadick and those who stick their fingers in their ears pretending we dont have a black knife and gun problem in the capital are doing nothing ... London used to be a great city not any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 Aint no slowing down in that lawless London ... https://news.sky.com/story/four-men-stabbed-in-south-london-11474316 ... Mr Sadick really has sorted knife crime in the capital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 Oh Lordy ... Sadicks lost control of the capital ... https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1006491/london-news-rayners-lane-tube-station-shooting-latest-met-police ... Enoughs enough ... Lets get rid of Sadick and get someone who can stop the shameful murder on our capitals streets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 antony1969 - 2018-08-21 7:08 PM Oh Lordy ... Sadicks lost control of the capital ... https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1006491/london-news-rayners-lane-tube-station-shooting-latest-met-police ... Enoughs enough ... Lets get rid of Sadick and get someone who can stop the shameful murder on our capitals streets As the gap between rich and poor increases, so does the crime rate. The evedence is overwhelming. But the Government has their fingers in their ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Drone photos showing the stark divide between rich and poor areas. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-45257901 - where the poor are allowed to live inshacks. They have not included London because planning restrictions do not allow the poor to build shacks The poor have to sleep rough instead. Those who have experienced it have said its better to be poor in India or Bangladesh than in England - because they would be allowed to build a shack and the climate is warmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 John52 - 2018-08-22 6:21 AM antony1969 - 2018-08-21 7:08 PM Oh Lordy ... Sadicks lost control of the capital ... https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1006491/london-news-rayners-lane-tube-station-shooting-latest-met-police ... Enoughs enough ... Lets get rid of Sadick and get someone who can stop the shameful murder on our capitals streets As the gap between rich and poor increases, so does the crime rate. The evedence is overwhelming. But the Government has their fingers in their ears. Mmm but the gun and knife crime epidemic we have in Sadicks London has nothing to do with the poor attacking the rich ... It's black gang crime and gangsta culture ... The evidence is overwhelming ... Not the Government or the rich or poors fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 antony1969 - 2018-08-22 7:46 AM John52 - 2018-08-22 6:21 AM antony1969 - 2018-08-21 7:08 PM Oh Lordy ... Sadicks lost control of the capital ... https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1006491/london-news-rayners-lane-tube-station-shooting-latest-met-police ... Enoughs enough ... Lets get rid of Sadick and get someone who can stop the shameful murder on our capitals streets As the gap between rich and poor increases, so does the crime rate. The evedence is overwhelming. But the Government has their fingers in their ears. Mmm but the gun and knife crime epidemic we have in Sadicks London has nothing to do with the poor attacking the rich ... It's black gang crime and gangsta culture ... The evidence is overwhelming ... Not the Government or the rich or poors fault Its usually about money - controlling the drugs racket etc. Which rich kids have no need to do. And their parents can afford to move to a nice area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 John52 - 2018-08-22 7:52 AM antony1969 - 2018-08-22 7:46 AM John52 - 2018-08-22 6:21 AM antony1969 - 2018-08-21 7:08 PM Oh Lordy ... Sadicks lost control of the capital ... https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1006491/london-news-rayners-lane-tube-station-shooting-latest-met-police ... Enoughs enough ... Lets get rid of Sadick and get someone who can stop the shameful murder on our capitals streets As the gap between rich and poor increases, so does the crime rate. The evedence is overwhelming. But the Government has their fingers in their ears. Mmm but the gun and knife crime epidemic we have in Sadicks London has nothing to do with the poor attacking the rich ... It's black gang crime and gangsta culture ... The evidence is overwhelming ... Not the Government or the rich or poors fault Its usually about money - controlling the drugs racket etc. Which rich kids have no need to do. And their parents can afford to move to a nice area. So who's fault is it they decided to become gangsters rather than get a job ? *-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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