Guest pelmetman Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-10 11:31 PM Pelmethead, you must be so glad we left the EU so we could be *checks notes* 50% behind the EU in terms of vaccinations. ?? I see what your HATER graph did there :D ......... So for accuracy ;-) ......... The EU has 1.13% of folk with 2 jabs and the UK has 1.13% with 2 jabs >:-) ........ Now would you like to do a graph comparing those who have their 1st jab? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Oh I forgot you like to see my workings :-> .......... Wales.......0.09% Scotland...0.2% England....0.84% total..........1.13% BTW your HATER graph forgot about NI (?) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:04 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-10 11:31 PM Pelmethead, you must be so glad we left the EU so we could be *checks notes* 50% behind the EU in terms of vaccinations. ?? Now would you like to do a graph comparing those who have their 1st jab? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... What would be the point of that ? The subject of the graph is the number of people " fully vaccinated ". There is plenty of info around about people who are only partially protected. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 malc d - 2021-02-11 10:10 AM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:04 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-10 11:31 PM Pelmethead, you must be so glad we left the EU so we could be *checks notes* 50% behind the EU in terms of vaccinations. ?? Now would you like to do a graph comparing those who have their 1st jab? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... What would be the point of that ? The subject of the graph is the number of people " fully vaccinated ". There is plenty of info around about people who are only partially protected. :-| Giggle (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Do der maffs Malc ;-) ......... UK is also beating the 27 with our 2 jabs as the HATER graph would prove if they included NI *-)......... I also note Yorkies HATER graph doesn't add up >:-) .........UK 0.76% (?) ......... I await my next forum maths lesson to explain how 1.13% becomes 0.76%? :-> ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 malc d - 2021-02-11 10:10 AM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:04 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-10 11:31 PM Pelmethead, you must be so glad we left the EU so we could be *checks notes* 50% behind the EU in terms of vaccinations. ?? Now would you like to do a graph comparing those who have their 1st jab? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... What would be the point of that ? The subject of the graph is the number of people " fully vaccinated ". There is plenty of info around about people who are only partially protected. :-| Considerably more people with some protection is favourable to considerably few people with full protection. It only reduces the chance of you needing hospital treatment, you can still get covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-02-11 10:20 AM malc d - 2021-02-11 10:10 AM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:04 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-10 11:31 PM Pelmethead, you must be so glad we left the EU so we could be *checks notes* 50% behind the EU in terms of vaccinations. ?? Now would you like to do a graph comparing those who have their 1st jab? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... What would be the point of that ? The subject of the graph is the number of people " fully vaccinated ". There is plenty of info around about people who are only partially protected. :-| Considerably more people with some protection is favourable to considerably few people with full protection. It only reduces the chance of you needing hospital treatment, you can still get covid. Being a sensible Brexiteer the sooner I get some protection the better B-) ............ Not that we'll be going out until we have both jabs ;-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:04 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-10 11:31 PM Pelmethead, you must be so glad we left the EU so we could be *checks notes* 50% behind the EU in terms of vaccinations. ?? I see what your HATER graph did there :D ......... So for accuracy ;-) ......... The EU has 1.13% of folk with 2 jabs and the UK has 1.13% with 2 jabs >:-) ........ Now would you like to do a graph comparing those who have their 1st jab? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Oh I forgot you like to see my workings :-> .......... Wales.......0.09% Scotland...0.2% England....0.84% total..........1.13% BTW your HATER graph forgot about NI (?) ......... Coooee Yorkie?........Can you check my workings please :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:23 AM Not that we'll be going out until we have both jabs ;-) .......... Having both jabs doesn't mean you are allowed out - it just means you are less likely to be affected by the virus. You could still spread it. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 malc d - 2021-02-11 10:34 AM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:23 AM Not that we'll be going out until we have both jabs ;-) .......... Having both jabs doesn't mean you are allowed out - it just means you are less likely to catch the virus. :-| It also means your less likely to end up in hospital B-) ..........the same applies to just 1 jab although with a reduced percentage ;-) ...... Talking of percentages :D ........... Did I get my sums right? :-> .........and is the HATER graph WRONG? >:-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:38 AM Did I get my sums right? :-> ... ......and is the HATER graph WRONG? >:-) ....... 1) I'm very surprised THAT you have taken the risk OFdoing ANY more sums on the forum. I have TO admire your bravery. 2) I've not seen any " HATER " graphs on THE forum - so I don't know what you ARE referring to. ( With apologies to other members of the forum for all the unnecessary capital letters - I'm trying to make it easier for Dave to read ). ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 malc d - 2021-02-11 11:02 AM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:38 AM Did I get my sums right? :-> ... ......and is the HATER graph WRONG? >:-) ....... 1) I'm very surprised THAT you have taken the risk OFdoing ANY more sums on the forum. I have TO admire your bravery. 2) I've not seen any " HATER " graphs on THE forum - so I don't know what you ARE referring to. ( With apologies to other members of the forum for all the unnecessary capital letters - I'm trying to make it easier for Dave to read ). ;-) Obviously you have missed the graph posted by that well known HATER CurtainRaiser ;-) ........ Seeing as you and others have picked up on my misplacing of a decimal point, I'm just checking that my workings for my percentage sums are correct? :-> ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:04 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-10 11:31 PM Pelmethead, you must be so glad we left the EU so we could be *checks notes* 50% behind the EU in terms of vaccinations. ?? I see what your HATER graph did there :D ......... So for accuracy ;-) ......... The EU has 1.13% of folk with 2 jabs and the UK has 1.13% with 2 jabs >:-) ........ Now would you like to do a graph comparing those who have their 1st jab? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Oh I forgot you like to see my workings :-> .......... Wales.......0.09% Scotland...0.2% England....0.84% total..........1.13% BTW your HATER graph forgot about NI (?) ......... Yorkie Bump :D .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-11 11:12 AM malc d - 2021-02-11 11:02 AM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:38 AM Did I get my sums right? :-> ... ......and is the HATER graph WRONG? >:-) ....... 1) I'm very surprised THAT you have taken the risk OFdoing ANY more sums on the forum. I have TO admire your bravery. 2) I've not seen any " HATER " graphs on THE forum - so I don't know what you ARE referring to. ( With apologies to other members of the forum for all the unnecessary capital letters - I'm trying to make it easier for Dave to read ). ;-) Obviously you have missed the graph posted by that well known HATER CurtainRaiser ;-) ........ Your posting misled me. You said there was a " HATER graph " - but there wasn't - that was a " VACCINATION graph ".. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 malc d - 2021-02-11 11:40 AM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 11:12 AM malc d - 2021-02-11 11:02 AM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:38 AM Did I get my sums right? :-> ... ......and is the HATER graph WRONG? >:-) ....... 1) I'm very surprised THAT you have taken the risk OFdoing ANY more sums on the forum. I have TO admire your bravery. 2) I've not seen any " HATER " graphs on THE forum - so I don't know what you ARE referring to. ( With apologies to other members of the forum for all the unnecessary capital letters - I'm trying to make it easier for Dave to read ). ;-) Obviously you have missed the graph posted by that well known HATER CurtainRaiser ;-) ........ Your posting misled me. You said there was a " HATER graph " - but there wasn't - that was a " VACCINATION graph ".. :-| A vaccination graph created by HATERS to spread LIES *-) ........ Why else does it say the UK has only had 76% of people with 2 jabs and not included NI? ;-) ........ I suspect Curtainraiser is feeling a bit of a Pr^t for not doing his sums (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:04 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-10 11:31 PM Pelmethead, you must be so glad we left the EU so we could be *checks notes* 50% behind the EU in terms of vaccinations. ?? I see what your HATER graph did there :D ......... So for accuracy ;-) ......... The EU has 1.13% of folk with 2 jabs and the UK has 1.13% with 2 jabs >:-) ........ Now would you like to do a graph comparing those who have their 1st jab? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Oh I forgot you like to see my workings :-> .......... Wales.......0.09% Scotland...0.2% England....0.84% total..........1.13% BTW your HATER graph forgot about NI (?) ......... I see your workings, and you have failed 11+ maths, try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 colin - 2021-02-11 12:16 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:04 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-10 11:31 PM Pelmethead, you must be so glad we left the EU so we could be *checks notes* 50% behind the EU in terms of vaccinations. ?? I see what your HATER graph did there :D ......... So for accuracy ;-) ......... The EU has 1.13% of folk with 2 jabs and the UK has 1.13% with 2 jabs >:-) ........ Now would you like to do a graph comparing those who have their 1st jab? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Oh I forgot you like to see my workings :-> .......... Wales.......0.09% Scotland...0.2% England....0.84% total..........1.13% BTW your HATER graph forgot about NI (?) ......... I see your workings, and you have failed 11+ maths, try again. Really? ;-) ........ What do you get when you add 0.09% + 0.2% + 0.84%? :D .......... Or do I need a Diane Abbotcus to get the correct LOSER answer? (lol) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-11 12:32 PM colin - 2021-02-11 12:16 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:04 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-10 11:31 PM Pelmethead, you must be so glad we left the EU so we could be *checks notes* 50% behind the EU in terms of vaccinations. ?? I see what your HATER graph did there :D ......... So for accuracy ;-) ......... The EU has 1.13% of folk with 2 jabs and the UK has 1.13% with 2 jabs >:-) ........ Now would you like to do a graph comparing those who have their 1st jab? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Oh I forgot you like to see my workings :-> .......... Wales.......0.09% Scotland...0.2% England....0.84% total..........1.13% BTW your HATER graph forgot about NI (?) ......... I see your workings, and you have failed 11+ maths, try again. Really? ;-) ........ What do you get when you add 0.09% + 0.2% + 0.84%? :D .......... Or do I need a Diane Abbotcus to get the correct LOSER answer? (lol) ........... You quite obviously don't understand maths, you would make Diane Abbot proud. I'll give you a chance to work it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 colin - 2021-02-11 12:36 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 12:32 PM colin - 2021-02-11 12:16 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:04 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-10 11:31 PM Pelmethead, you must be so glad we left the EU so we could be *checks notes* 50% behind the EU in terms of vaccinations. ?? I see what your HATER graph did there :D ......... So for accuracy ;-) ......... The EU has 1.13% of folk with 2 jabs and the UK has 1.13% with 2 jabs >:-) ........ Now would you like to do a graph comparing those who have their 1st jab? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Oh I forgot you like to see my workings :-> .......... Wales.......0.09% Scotland...0.2% England....0.84% total..........1.13% BTW your HATER graph forgot about NI (?) ......... I see your workings, and you have failed 11+ maths, try again. Really? ;-) ........ What do you get when you add 0.09% + 0.2% + 0.84%? :D .......... Or do I need a Diane Abbotcus to get the correct LOSER answer? (lol) ........... You quite obviously don't understand maths, you would make Diane Abbot proud. I'll give you a chance to work it out. I understand pefectly how to add up ;-) .......... It seems our resident LOSERS dont like the answers :D ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 How could a delay to the second vaccine dose affect the level of protection? Vaccines don’t work immediately – the protection they give builds up over time. But, over a longer time, that protection may then fall again. So, for most vaccines, a second booster jab is given several weeks or months after the first. In general, a 12-week gap between doses would not be long enough for that initial protection to fade. In fact, there are risks in having too short a gap between doses: it’s important to give the immune system time to fully react to the first dose so that it can then get maximum benefit from the second. The clinical trials of the new coronavirus vaccines didn’t compare different dosing timescales. But, by looking at the details, we can get some indications. The Oxford-AstraZeneca trial(opens in a new tab) involved a range of gaps between doses, and the signs are that the participants who had a longer gap developed stronger immunity. But the numbers involved are small, and the trial wasn’t designed to test this comparison, so we need to be cautious with this data. It does suggest, though, that this vaccine follows the general pattern of giving better protection with a longer gap. Based on this, the UK decision, to aim at the high end of the recommended 4-12 week gap, is justified. Wellcome Foundation report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-11 12:41 PM colin - 2021-02-11 12:36 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 12:32 PM colin - 2021-02-11 12:16 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:04 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-10 11:31 PM Pelmethead, you must be so glad we left the EU so we could be *checks notes* 50% behind the EU in terms of vaccinations. ?? I see what your HATER graph did there :D ......... So for accuracy ;-) ......... The EU has 1.13% of folk with 2 jabs and the UK has 1.13% with 2 jabs >:-) ........ Now would you like to do a graph comparing those who have their 1st jab? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Oh I forgot you like to see my workings :-> .......... Wales.......0.09% Scotland...0.2% England....0.84% total..........1.13% BTW your HATER graph forgot about NI (?) ......... I see your workings, and you have failed 11+ maths, try again. Really? ;-) ........ What do you get when you add 0.09% + 0.2% + 0.84%? :D .......... Or do I need a Diane Abbotcus to get the correct LOSER answer? (lol) ........... You quite obviously don't understand maths, you would make Diane Abbot proud. I'll give you a chance to work it out. I understand pefectly how to add up ;-) .......... It seems our resident LOSERS dont like the answers :D ......... It seems you don't, Diane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 colin - 2021-02-11 12:47 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 12:41 PM colin - 2021-02-11 12:36 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 12:32 PM colin - 2021-02-11 12:16 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 10:04 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-10 11:31 PM Pelmethead, you must be so glad we left the EU so we could be *checks notes* 50% behind the EU in terms of vaccinations. ?? I see what your HATER graph did there :D ......... So for accuracy ;-) ......... The EU has 1.13% of folk with 2 jabs and the UK has 1.13% with 2 jabs >:-) ........ Now would you like to do a graph comparing those who have their 1st jab? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Oh I forgot you like to see my workings :-> .......... Wales.......0.09% Scotland...0.2% England....0.84% total..........1.13% BTW your HATER graph forgot about NI (?) ......... I see your workings, and you have failed 11+ maths, try again. Really? ;-) ........ What do you get when you add 0.09% + 0.2% + 0.84%? :D .......... Or do I need a Diane Abbotcus to get the correct LOSER answer? (lol) ........... You quite obviously don't understand maths, you would make Diane Abbot proud. I'll give you a chance to work it out. I understand pefectly how to add up ;-) .......... It seems our resident LOSERS dont like the answers :D ......... It seems you don't, Diane Can you show me the workings of your Abbotcus? ;-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-02-11 12:43 PM How could a delay to the second vaccine dose affect the level of protection? Vaccines don’t work immediately – the protection they give builds up over time. But, over a longer time, that protection may then fall again. So, for most vaccines, a second booster jab is given several weeks or months after the first. In general, a 12-week gap between doses would not be long enough for that initial protection to fade. In fact, there are risks in having too short a gap between doses: it’s important to give the immune system time to fully react to the first dose so that it can then get maximum benefit from the second. The clinical trials of the new coronavirus vaccines didn’t compare different dosing timescales. But, by looking at the details, we can get some indications. The Oxford-AstraZeneca trial(opens in a new tab) involved a range of gaps between doses, and the signs are that the participants who had a longer gap developed stronger immunity. But the numbers involved are small, and the trial wasn’t designed to test this comparison, so we need to be cautious with this data. It does suggest, though, that this vaccine follows the general pattern of giving better protection with a longer gap. Based on this, the UK decision, to aim at the high end of the recommended 4-12 week gap, is justified. Wellcome Foundation report. Oh dear .....Oh dear......Your gonna give our resident HATERS a heart attack posting evidence like that (lol) (lol) (lol) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-11 12:49 PM Can you show me the workings of your Abbotcus? ;-) ........... Of cause. W times 0.09%=X S times 0.2%= Y E times 0.84%=Z (X+Y+Z)/(W+S+E) = Answer Now all you have to do is find the figures for W, S, and E. Simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 colin - 2021-02-11 12:58 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 12:49 PM Can you show me the workings of your Abbotcus? ;-) ........... Of cause. W times 0.09%=X S times 0.2%= Y E times 0.84%=Z (X+Y+Z)/(W+S+E) = Answer Now all you have to do is find the figures for W, S, and E. Simples I prefer this formula ;-) .......... What is the formula for adding percentages? Adding Percentages. Let us consider, Percentage 1 as 12 %, percentage 2 as 3 % and Real Value as 100. Total Percentage = 12 % + 3 % = 15 %. Total Value https://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E214GB1140G0&p=how+to+add+up+percentages It gives the correct answer.......Not a load of LOSER baloney (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-11 1:02 PM colin - 2021-02-11 12:58 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-11 12:49 PM Can you show me the workings of your Abbotcus? ;-) ........... Of cause. W times 0.09%=X S times 0.2%= Y E times 0.84%=Z (X+Y+Z)/(W+S+E) = Answer Now all you have to do is find the figures for W, S, and E. Simples I prefer this formula ;-) .......... What is the formula for adding percentages? Adding Percentages. Let us consider, Percentage 1 as 12 %, percentage 2 as 3 % and Real Value as 100. Total Percentage = 12 % + 3 % = 15 %. Total Value https://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E214GB1140G0&p=how+to+add+up+percentages It gives the correct answer.......Not a load of LOSER baloney (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Wrong again Diane, you haven't understood what you have asked or the answer you have been given, you are turning into a complete Whiner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-11 12:52 PM........................Oh dear .....Oh dear......Your gonna give our resident HATERS a heart attack posting evidence like that (lol) (lol) (lol) ........... Who are these "haters", whose minds tell them that anyone who doesn't agree with them is some kind of enemy, who all march in lock step to the same tune, and bow down before the same Gods, false or otherwise? Who is it that is so paranoid they see the world as against them? "Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me"?? And all because of a bit of relatively good news. Take a break Dave, you'll soon feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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