Barryd999 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-03 10:25 AM Barryd999 - 2021-02-03 10:16 AM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 9:22 AM Oh dear oh dear :D ........... "Results that show the Oxford-AstraZenenca vaccine may reduce the spread of coronavirus have been hailed as "absolutely superb" by the health secretary. Matt Hancock said the study shows "vaccines are the way out of this pandemic". It is the first time a vaccine has been shown to reduce transmission of the virus. The UK has given a first Covid jab to 9.6 million people so far." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55913913 Our government being proved right AGAIN will annoy the hell out of our resident Boris bashers (lol) (lol) (lol) ...... LOL! WTF has any of it got to do with our government? The one success story of Covid and they had nothing to do with it. Thankfully its been rolled out by our NHS also and not one of the Tory parties private spivs. Track and Trace anyone? PPE? Smart phone apps? (lol) You keep ignoring the FACT that it was Boris and his government that invested in the Oxford jab ;-) ........ It was also Boris and his government who decided to give everyone a first dose, which is proving to be a wise decision despite all your doomongering B-) .......... BTW...........How are your EU mates doing? >:-) .......... (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Idiot. Johnson as Brian says was playing it all down, shaking hands and missing Cobra meetings when the team at Oxford were flat out trying to develop a vaccine. All he or someone in government had to do when they finally woke up was place an order. As to the first dose and meddling with the vaccine guidelines being a good idea or not, well that remains to be seen and the report posted yesterday suggests it isnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Here is a sobering thought ALL of us should bear in mind on statistics. UK Covid mortality figure now accounts for 45,460 MORE than the number of UK civilians killed as a result of military action in SIX YEARS of wwar during WW2. 8-) In less than ONE year certified Covid fatalities in UK is 112,660 (Tuesday 2nd February 4pm) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m943 In SIX YEARS of war UK civilian fatalities accounted for 67,200 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Human_losses_by_country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Barryd999 - 2021-02-03 2:22 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 10:25 AM Barryd999 - 2021-02-03 10:16 AM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 9:22 AM Oh dear oh dear :D ........... "Results that show the Oxford-AstraZenenca vaccine may reduce the spread of coronavirus have been hailed as "absolutely superb" by the health secretary. Matt Hancock said the study shows "vaccines are the way out of this pandemic". It is the first time a vaccine has been shown to reduce transmission of the virus. The UK has given a first Covid jab to 9.6 million people so far." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55913913 Our government being proved right AGAIN will annoy the hell out of our resident Boris bashers (lol) (lol) (lol) ...... LOL! WTF has any of it got to do with our government? The one success story of Covid and they had nothing to do with it. Thankfully its been rolled out by our NHS also and not one of the Tory parties private spivs. Track and Trace anyone? PPE? Smart phone apps? (lol) You keep ignoring the FACT that it was Boris and his government that invested in the Oxford jab ;-) ........ It was also Boris and his government who decided to give everyone a first dose, which is proving to be a wise decision despite all your doomongering B-) .......... BTW...........How are your EU mates doing? >:-) .......... (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Idiot. Johnson as Brian says was playing it all down, shaking hands and missing Cobra meetings when the team at Oxford were flat out trying to develop a vaccine. All he or someone in government had to do when they finally woke up was place an order. As to the first dose and meddling with the vaccine guidelines being a good idea or not, well that remains to be seen and the report posted yesterday suggests it isnt. Double Idiot *-) ........... The team at Oxford was funded by Boris, whilst he was doing his best to reassure the country :-| .......... Unfortunatley he caught the Virus in the early days........So what was Macron's excuse? >:-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Bulletguy - 2021-02-03 2:58 PM Here is a sobering thought ALL of us should bear in mind on statistics. UK Covid mortality figure now accounts for 45,460 MORE than the number of UK civilians killed as a result of military action in SIX YEARS of wwar during WW2. 8-) In less than ONE year certified Covid fatalities in UK is 112,660 (Tuesday 2nd February 4pm) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m943 In SIX YEARS of war UK civilian fatalities accounted for 67,200 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Human_losses_by_country Did those civilians die OF Bombing or WITH Bombing? :-| ......... Just askin *-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:06 PM Did those civilians die OF Bombing or WITH Bombing? :-| ......... ......... They died as a result of bombing. I'm surprised you have to ask. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 malc d - 2021-02-03 3:23 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:06 PM Did those civilians die OF Bombing or WITH Bombing? :-| ......... ......... They died as a result of bombing. I'm surprised you have to ask. :-| Best have a word with Bullet then ;-) ......... As he seems to think everyone who died "with" COVID died "of" COVID rather than Cancer, Dementia etc etc :-| ......... I'll be surprised if that FACT stops LOSERS blaming Boris *-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:06 PM Bulletguy - 2021-02-03 2:58 PM Here is a sobering thought ALL of us should bear in mind on statistics. UK Covid mortality figure now accounts for 45,460 MORE than the number of UK civilians killed as a result of military action in SIX YEARS of wwar during WW2. 8-) In less than ONE year certified Covid fatalities in UK is 112,660 (Tuesday 2nd February 4pm) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m943 In SIX YEARS of war UK civilian fatalities accounted for 67,200 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Human_losses_by_country Did those civilians die OF Bombing or WITH Bombing? :-| ......... Go and see a Psychiatrist......please. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Bulletguy - 2021-02-03 4:00 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:06 PM Bulletguy - 2021-02-03 2:58 PM Here is a sobering thought ALL of us should bear in mind on statistics. UK Covid mortality figure now accounts for 45,460 MORE than the number of UK civilians killed as a result of military action in SIX YEARS of wwar during WW2. 8-) In less than ONE year certified Covid fatalities in UK is 112,660 (Tuesday 2nd February 4pm) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m943 In SIX YEARS of war UK civilian fatalities accounted for 67,200 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Human_losses_by_country Did those civilians die OF Bombing or WITH Bombing? :-| ......... Go and see a Psychiatrist......please. *-) Why? :-S .......... I'm not Losing it like your LOSER leader (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-03 2:04 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-03 1:49 PM It doesn't show diet. There is a reason some people die and others don't. It depends on your immune system,not whether you youjust have the virus. Really? You are going to put the difference in those mortality figures to gut probiotics and how good your T cells are? You don't think it might be down to the fact that they lockdowned hard at the start, had a effective test and trace system etc etc? That isn't shown in your figures. Certainly if you lock your boarders then less chance of it coming in. Once you have it ...its really down to your immune system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-02-03 4:20 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-03 2:04 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-03 1:49 PM It doesn't show diet. There is a reason some people die and others don't. It depends on your immune system,not whether you youjust have the virus. Really? You are going to put the difference in those mortality figures to gut probiotics and how good your T cells are? You don't think it might be down to the fact that they lockdowned hard at the start, had a effective test and trace system etc etc? That isn't shown in your figures. Certainly if you lock your boarders then less chance of it coming in. Once you have it ...its really down to your immune system. Are you talking about deaths from increased cytokine levels? Because that's not what is killing most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:33 PM malc d - 2021-02-03 3:23 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:06 PM Did those civilians die OF Bombing or WITH Bombing? :-| .................. They died as a result of bombing. I'm surprised you have to ask. :-| Best have a word with Bullet then ;-) ......... As he seems to think everyone who died "with" COVID died "of" COVID rather than Cancer, Dementia etc etc :-| ......... I'll be surprised if that FACT stops LOSERS blaming Boris *-) .......... If someone can't get hospital treatment when they need it because so many beds etc are taken by people suffering from Covid, and as a result they die, what is the actual cause of their death? If someone who has multiple health problems and is admitted to hospital diagnosed with Covid and they die, what is the actual cause of their death. They weren't in hospital before they got Covid, were they? So their other problems didn't hospitalise them, did they? Likely actual cause of death? This is pointless hair splitting because you can't face up to the fact that that Johnson, through his denials, dithering, and reluctance to act when he could have done, has contributed to the number of dead being so high. No-one has claimed he is responsible for all the deaths, jut that he is for a large proportion of them. What is your problem with that self-evident truth? Do you feel he needs your personal shield to protect him? It's like a mother duck trying to protect some wayward duckling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 For a sobering listen that exposes the hypocrisy of the "of Covid-19 /from Covid-19 " argument have a listen to this. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000rw3s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Brian Kirby - 2021-02-03 6:19 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:33 PM malc d - 2021-02-03 3:23 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:06 PM Did those civilians die OF Bombing or WITH Bombing? :-| .................. They died as a result of bombing. I'm surprised you have to ask. :-| Best have a word with Bullet then ;-) ......... As he seems to think everyone who died "with" COVID died "of" COVID rather than Cancer, Dementia etc etc :-| ......... I'll be surprised if that FACT stops LOSERS blaming Boris *-) .......... If someone can't get hospital treatment when they need it because so many beds etc are taken by people suffering from Covid, and as a result they die, what is the actual cause of their death? If someone who has multiple health problems and is admitted to hospital diagnosed with Covid and they die, what is the actual cause of their death. They weren't in hospital before they got Covid, were they? So their other problems didn't hospitalise them, did they? Likely actual cause of death? This is pointless hair splitting because you can't face up to the fact that that Johnson, through his denials, dithering, and reluctance to act when he could have done, has contributed to the number of dead being so high. No-one has claimed he is responsible for all the deaths, jut that he is for a large proportion of them. What is your problem with that self-evident truth? Do you feel he needs your personal shield to protect him? It's like a mother duck trying to protect some wayward duckling! You cant stand that despite the best efforts of you LOSERS to stab him in the back, he's actually done far better than the EU in procuring vaccines early and rolling them out >:-) ......... Because the self evident truth is...... if you weren't bias you'd be slagging off the EU to would you not? (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Quack quack....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-03 6:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-03 4:20 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-03 2:04 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-03 1:49 PM It doesn't show diet. There is a reason some people die and others don't. It depends on your immune system,not whether you youjust have the virus. Really? You are going to put the difference in those mortality figures to gut probiotics and how good your T cells are? You don't think it might be down to the fact that they lockdowned hard at the start, had a effective test and trace system etc etc? That isn't shown in your figures. Certainly if you lock your boarders then less chance of it coming in. Once you have it ...its really down to your immune system. Are you talking about deaths from increased cytokine levels? Because that's not what is killing most people. Its a very complex subject and i am by no means a knowledgeable expert. However coronovirus surpresses the immune system, causing inflammation of various organs till they collapse. Most who die have a poor immune system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-03 4:01 PM Bulletguy - 2021-02-03 4:00 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:06 PM Bulletguy - 2021-02-03 2:58 PM Here is a sobering thought ALL of us should bear in mind on statistics. UK Covid mortality figure now accounts for 45,460 MORE than the number of UK civilians killed as a result of military action in SIX YEARS of wwar during WW2. 8-) In less than ONE year certified Covid fatalities in UK is 112,660 (Tuesday 2nd February 4pm) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m943 In SIX YEARS of war UK civilian fatalities accounted for 67,200 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Human_losses_by_country Did those civilians die OF Bombing or WITH Bombing? :-| ......... Go and see a Psychiatrist......please. *-) Why? :-S .......... Because you are posting the most utterly absurd pedantry. Perhaps when you lose a family member it might give you the kick up the backside you seriously need and knock that immature cockiness out of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:04 PM Barryd999 - 2021-02-03 2:22 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 10:25 AM Barryd999 - 2021-02-03 10:16 AM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 9:22 AM Oh dear oh dear :D ........... "Results that show the Oxford-AstraZenenca vaccine may reduce the spread of coronavirus have been hailed as "absolutely superb" by the health secretary. Matt Hancock said the study shows "vaccines are the way out of this pandemic". It is the first time a vaccine has been shown to reduce transmission of the virus. The UK has given a first Covid jab to 9.6 million people so far." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55913913 Our government being proved right AGAIN will annoy the hell out of our resident Boris bashers (lol) (lol) (lol) ...... LOL! WTF has any of it got to do with our government? The one success story of Covid and they had nothing to do with it. Thankfully its been rolled out by our NHS also and not one of the Tory parties private spivs. Track and Trace anyone? PPE? Smart phone apps? (lol) You keep ignoring the FACT that it was Boris and his government that invested in the Oxford jab ;-) ........ It was also Boris and his government who decided to give everyone a first dose, which is proving to be a wise decision despite all your doomongering B-) .......... BTW...........How are your EU mates doing? >:-) .......... (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Idiot. Johnson as Brian says was playing it all down, shaking hands and missing Cobra meetings when the team at Oxford were flat out trying to develop a vaccine. All he or someone in government had to do when they finally woke up was place an order. As to the first dose and meddling with the vaccine guidelines being a good idea or not, well that remains to be seen and the report posted yesterday suggests it isnt. Double Idiot *-) ........... The team at Oxford was funded by Boris, whilst he was doing his best to reassure the country :-| .......... Unfortunatley he caught the Virus in the early days........So what was Macron's excuse? >:-) ........ Johnson didn't fund anyone. He doesn't have any money. I believe "we" the tax payers (not you) funded a small amount out of a vaccine fund. Did his best to reassure the country? What by doing a Trump and burying his head in the sand and telling people to shake hands? FFS! *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-02-03 6:35 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-03 6:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-03 4:20 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-03 2:04 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-03 1:49 PM It doesn't show diet. There is a reason some people die and others don't. It depends on your immune system,not whether you youjust have the virus. Really? You are going to put the difference in those mortality figures to gut probiotics and how good your T cells are? You don't think it might be down to the fact that they lockdowned hard at the start, had a effective test and trace system etc etc? That isn't shown in your figures. Certainly if you lock your boarders then less chance of it coming in. Once you have it ...its really down to your immune system. Are you talking about deaths from increased cytokine levels? Because that's not what is killing most people. Its a very complex subject and i am by no means a knowledgeable expert. However coronovirus surpresses the immune system, causing inflammation of various organs till they collapse. Most who die have a poor immune system. What's your definition of a "poor immune system "? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Brian Kirby - 2021-02-03 6:19 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:33 PM malc d - 2021-02-03 3:23 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:06 PM Did those civilians die OF Bombing or WITH Bombing? :-| .................. They died as a result of bombing. I'm surprised you have to ask. :-| Best have a word with Bullet then ;-) ......... As he seems to think everyone who died "with" COVID died "of" COVID rather than Cancer, Dementia etc etc :-| ......... I'll be surprised if that FACT stops LOSERS blaming Boris *-) .......... If someone can't get hospital treatment when they need it because so many beds etc are taken by people suffering from Covid, and as a result they die, what is the actual cause of their death? If someone who has multiple health problems and is admitted to hospital diagnosed with Covid and they die, what is the actual cause of their death. They weren't in hospital before they got Covid, were they? So their other problems didn't hospitalise them, did they? Likely actual cause of death? This is pointless hair splitting because you can't face up to the fact that that Johnson, through his denials, dithering, and reluctance to act when he could have done, has contributed to the number of dead being so high. No-one has claimed he is responsible for all the deaths, jut that he is for a large proportion of them. What is your problem with that self-evident truth? Do you feel he needs your personal shield to protect him? It's like a mother duck trying to protect some wayward duckling! Well said Brian and typically he's avoided answering the questions you raised in the second paragraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Bulletguy - 2021-02-03 6:42 PM Brian Kirby - 2021-02-03 6:19 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:33 PM malc d - 2021-02-03 3:23 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:06 PM Did those civilians die OF Bombing or WITH Bombing? :-| .................. They died as a result of bombing. I'm surprised you have to ask. :-| Best have a word with Bullet then ;-) ......... As he seems to think everyone who died "with" COVID died "of" COVID rather than Cancer, Dementia etc etc :-| ......... I'll be surprised if that FACT stops LOSERS blaming Boris *-) .......... If someone can't get hospital treatment when they need it because so many beds etc are taken by people suffering from Covid, and as a result they die, what is the actual cause of their death? If someone who has multiple health problems and is admitted to hospital diagnosed with Covid and they die, what is the actual cause of their death. They weren't in hospital before they got Covid, were they? So their other problems didn't hospitalise them, did they? Likely actual cause of death? This is pointless hair splitting because you can't face up to the fact that that Johnson, through his denials, dithering, and reluctance to act when he could have done, has contributed to the number of dead being so high. No-one has claimed he is responsible for all the deaths, jut that he is for a large proportion of them. What is your problem with that self-evident truth? Do you feel he needs your personal shield to protect him? It's like a mother duck trying to protect some wayward duckling! Well said Brian and typically he's avoided answering the questions you raised in the second paragraph. Giggle :D ......... I see the squad are out in force tonight (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Still no condemnation of their EU chums incompetence.....Who are having to go begging to Russia and China to sort out their vaccine fiasco >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-03 6:41 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-03 6:35 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-03 6:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-03 4:20 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-03 2:04 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-03 1:49 PM It doesn't show diet. There is a reason some people die and others don't. It depends on your immune system,not whether you youjust have the virus. Really? You are going to put the difference in those mortality figures to gut probiotics and how good your T cells are? You don't think it might be down to the fact that they lockdowned hard at the start, had a effective test and trace system etc etc? That isn't shown in your figures. Certainly if you lock your boarders then less chance of it coming in. Once you have it ...its really down to your immune system. Are you talking about deaths from increased cytokine levels? Because that's not what is killing most people. Its a very complex subject and i am by no means a knowledgeable expert. However coronovirus surpresses the immune system, causing inflammation of various organs till they collapse. Most who die have a poor immune system. What's your definition of a "poor immune system "? A LOSER with a serious Loony Lefty bias :D ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-03 6:28 PM Brian Kirby - 2021-02-03 6:19 PM If someone can't get hospital treatment when they need it because so many beds etc are taken by people suffering from Covid, and as a result they die, what is the actual cause of their death? If someone who has multiple health problems and is admitted to hospital diagnosed with Covid and they die, what is the actual cause of their death. They weren't in hospital before they got Covid, were they? So their other problems didn't hospitalise them, did they? Likely actual cause of death? This is pointless hair splitting because you can't face up to the fact that that Johnson, through his denials, dithering, and reluctance to act when he could have done, has contributed to the number of dead being so high. No-one has claimed he is responsible for all the deaths, jut that he is for a large proportion of them. What is your problem with that self-evident truth? Do you feel he needs your personal shield to protect him? It's like a mother duck trying to protect some wayward duckling! You cant stand that despite the best efforts of you LOSERS to stab him in the back, he's actually done far better than the EU in procuring vaccines early and rolling them out >:-) ......... Because the self evident truth is...... if you weren't bias you'd be slagging off the EU to would you not? (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Quack quack....... Stab him in the back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D Such drama! :-D Have I said anywhere that the government (you seem to be under the illusion that Boris is the government) has not done well in securing vaccine supplied. Played a blinder was, I think, the terms I used. Is that a stab in the back? Why would I waste my time "slagging off" the EU? Their collective poor performance is obvious and is a tragedy for the member states, thousands of whose population are dying as a consequence. Why on earth do you think they panicked? They've blobbed. I'll leave you to waddle around looking for worse stories from elsewhere to veil the performance of your wayward duckling. Those with eyes etc. Quack quack. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Brian Kirby - 2021-02-03 6:55 PM Why would I waste my time "slagging off" the EU? Their collective poor performance is obvious and is a tragedy for the member states, thousands of whose population are dying as a consequence. Why on earth do you think they panicked? They've blobbed. Why not? ;-) .........If you weren't biased you would >:-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-03 6:41 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-03 6:35 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-03 6:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-03 4:20 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-03 2:04 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-03 1:49 PM It doesn't show diet. There is a reason some people die and others don't. It depends on your immune system,not whether you youjust have the virus. Really? You are going to put the difference in those mortality figures to gut probiotics and how good your T cells are? You don't think it might be down to the fact that they lockdowned hard at the start, had a effective test and trace system etc etc? That isn't shown in your figures. Certainly if you lock your boarders then less chance of it coming in. Once you have it ...its really down to your immune system. Are you talking about deaths from increased cytokine levels? Because that's not what is killing most people. Its a very complex subject and i am by no means a knowledgeable expert. However coronovirus surpresses the immune system, causing inflammation of various organs till they collapse. Most who die have a poor immune system. What's your definition of a "poor immune system "? https://intermountainhealthcare.org/blogs/topics/covid-19/2020/06/want-a-defense-against-covid-19-strengthen-your-immune-system/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-03 6:49 PM Bulletguy - 2021-02-03 6:42 PM Brian Kirby - 2021-02-03 6:19 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:33 PM malc d - 2021-02-03 3:23 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:06 PM Did those civilians die OF Bombing or WITH Bombing? :-| .................. They died as a result of bombing. I'm surprised you have to ask. :-| Best have a word with Bullet then ;-) ......... As he seems to think everyone who died "with" COVID died "of" COVID rather than Cancer, Dementia etc etc :-| ......... I'll be surprised if that FACT stops LOSERS blaming Boris *-) .......... If someone can't get hospital treatment when they need it because so many beds etc are taken by people suffering from Covid, and as a result they die, what is the actual cause of their death? If someone who has multiple health problems and is admitted to hospital diagnosed with Covid and they die, what is the actual cause of their death. They weren't in hospital before they got Covid, were they? So their other problems didn't hospitalise them, did they? Likely actual cause of death? This is pointless hair splitting because you can't face up to the fact that that Johnson, through his denials, dithering, and reluctance to act when he could have done, has contributed to the number of dead being so high. No-one has claimed he is responsible for all the deaths, jut that he is for a large proportion of them. What is your problem with that self-evident truth? Do you feel he needs your personal shield to protect him? It's like a mother duck trying to protect some wayward duckling! Well said Brian and typically he's avoided answering the questions you raised in the second paragraph. Giggle :D ......... I see the squad are out in force tonight (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Still no condemnation of their EU chums incompetence.....Who are having to go begging to Russia and China to sort out their vaccine fiasco >:-) ......... Unable to address Brians valid points and reasons you typically resort to deflection and posting a childish comment. As for your Russia comment it just shows how thick you are as Astra Zeneca have been working with Russian scientists since last year with a view to combining the two vaccines. You'd know about this if you pulled your head out of far right hate websites and manic obsession with bashing the EU and began educating yourself with informative reports. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55273907 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Brian Kirby - 2021-02-03 6:19 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:33 PM malc d - 2021-02-03 3:23 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-03 3:06 PM Did those civilians die OF Bombing or WITH Bombing? :-| .................. They died as a result of bombing. I'm surprised you have to ask. :-| Best have a word with Bullet then ;-) ......... As he seems to think everyone who died "with" COVID died "of" COVID rather than Cancer, Dementia etc etc :-| ......... I'll be surprised if that FACT stops LOSERS blaming Boris *-) .......... If someone can't get hospital treatment when they need it because so many beds etc are taken by people suffering from Covid, and as a result they die, what is the actual cause of their death? If someone who has multiple health problems and is admitted to hospital diagnosed with Covid and they die, what is the actual cause of their death. They weren't in hospital before they got Covid, were they? So their other problems didn't hospitalise them, did they? Likely actual cause of death? This is pointless hair splitting because you can't face up to the fact that that Johnson, through his denials, dithering, and reluctance to act when he could have done, has contributed to the number of dead being so high. No-one has claimed he is responsible for all the deaths, jut that he is for a large proportion of them. What is your problem with that self-evident truth? Do you feel he needs your personal shield to protect him? It's like a mother duck trying to protect some wayward duckling! I can’t agree with you Brian, that is far to a simplistic view of responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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